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Old 09-07-2010, 04:51 PM
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Would you really want the jury to take serious the testimony of a racist white man who has perjured himself in court?

In a trial, character is VERY important.

He assasinated his own character. He renderred himself useless to the Prosecution. He embarrassed his entire agency, maybe even police officers all over the country.


The jury could not convict OJ with the evidence presented because the Prosecution could not prove his guilt BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT.

OJ could have walked if the trial had been held in Jackson, MS in the 1990's, as long as there were considerable doubts. With the police tampering with evidence, lying in court and notably racist, the Prosecution would lost that case anywhere in America where citizens are not concerned with ensuring that JUSTICE is served-- and that not at the expense of an innocent man.
You're confusing the issue, which was if the prosecution could validate the testimony of the detective then YES I want them to take what he said because it was validated. Whether the man is a racist or not is irrelevant.

Remember? You mentioned validating what he said. IF his testimony could be validated by the prosecution then it's valid regardless of this man's feelings towards other races
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:54 PM
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You're confusing the issue, which was if the prosecution could validate the testimony of the detective then YES I want them to take what he said because it was validated. Whether the man is a racist or not is irrelevant.

Remember? You mentioned validating what he said. IF his testimony could be validated by the prosecution then it's valid regardless of this man's feelings towards other races
What he said was automatically invalid because he said it.

It would have been impossible to validate his testimony-- his character got in the way.

Why don't you understand that no matter what he said, there was no way that he could have been validated, given the circumstances of this particular trial?

Wasn't he even accused of planting evidence at the scene?

The Prosecution may have done better to ask for a mistrial at some point. They shot themselves in the foot trying to use him. But why did they try to use him? Could it be that he was the highest ranking police officer in charge and involved in this case from the beginning?

If yes, then you want to convict a black man, leading to a possible death sentence for that same black man, based in large part on the testimony and expertise of a racist white man? A racist white man, police officer, who was caught in a lie in the same trial in which that black man is on trial-- you really think there was any way to validate him?

When asked if he planted evidence at the scene, Furhman plead the 5th!

But you think that he could have been, or maybe should have been validated?

How?



Justice was served. I was glad then that OJ was found not guilty and I am glad now. There were too many doubts created to convict him.



When you hear of people saying they are glad, don't assume it is because they are glad those two white people died, or that a black man was able to allegedly murder two whites and get away with it. No one in their right mind would be glad for that, regardless of their skin color.

This is rare, but I will take this liberty. WE were glad that OJ was found, "Not Guilty" because we saw a Justice system at work and saw it work out in a way where this black man was not found guilty just because it looked like he could have done it.

His innocence was noticeably presumed, maintained, and confirmed using the same justice system that had historically not worked for blacks in the same way when the chips had been stacked against us.


He fought the system and won, using the system-- that same system that has doomed so many innocent blacks in this country in this century alone.



Minorities seemed to never triumph within the CRIMINAL Justice System-- before OJ. It is a sweeping generalization, but that was and is the general "feel" I got from listening to some people, blacks and whites during and after that trial.

He won and justice was served all within the system. His innocence speaks of the fairness of our Criminal Justice system and the progress our country has made.
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Furthermore, the OJ case exposed just how corrupt some were in the LAPD, validating the accusations of mistreatment and injustice that minorites have endured at the hands of police officers all over the country.

Or maybe you think that the LAPD is the only American Law Enforcement agency that has members who boast of abusing the same people they are charged to protect.

Think about it! When Furhman was asked if he planted evidence, he plead the 5th!

How can that sit right with anyone?
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