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Old 10-20-2010, 03:57 PM
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Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?

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A former atheistic evolutionist professor speaks of his converion to crhristianity (and theistic evolution) to young earth (Biblical) creationism.
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A former atheistic evolutionist professor speaks of his converion to crhristianity (and theistic evolution) to young earth (Biblical) creationism.
It's hard to tell who you mean here.

Jason Lisle was never an "atheist" - by his own account, which I'm willing to believe. And, Jason Lisle was NEVER an "evolutionist professor." He was fully converted as child. His bio almost boasts of this fact.

"Dr. Cary Parker" might be the guy you meant (a couple of videos down), except; for a "scientist" who claims to have "written five textbooks" he has left very little information of his activities behind. Searches for textbooks in any subject come up blank for a "Dr. Cary Parker" as he is identified on screen and for just plain ol' "Cary Parker."

Parker seems to be making references to DNA at one point early on (I can't hear what he's saying very clearly), so I looked for papers by a "Cary Parker" on PubMed and found none. I thought that a textbook author would surely have written some papers before being launched into such a grand career, but nada.

I did find a "Dr. Cary Parker" who was identified as a "Woods Hole oceanographer." Woods Hole is the world renown oceanic research center in Massachusetts. Is he your "Dr. Cary Parker?"
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It's hard to tell who you mean here.

Jason Lisle was never an "atheist" - by his own account, which I'm willing to believe. And, Jason Lisle was NEVER an "evolutionist professor." He was fully converted as child. His bio almost boasts of this fact.

"Dr. Cary Parker" might be the guy you meant (a couple of videos down), except; for a "scientist" who claims to have "written five textbooks" he has left very little information of his activities behind. Searches for textbooks in any subject come up blank for a "Dr. Cary Parker" as he is identified on screen and for just plain ol' "Cary Parker."

Parker seems to be making references to DNA at one point early on (I can't hear what he's saying very clearly), so I looked for papers by a "Cary Parker" on PubMed and found none. I thought that a textbook author would surely have written some papers before being launched into such a grand career, but nada.

I did find a "Dr. Cary Parker" who was identified as a "Woods Hole oceanographer." Woods Hole is the world renown oceanic research center in Massachusetts. Is he your "Dr. Cary Parker?"
I'm not sure, but I would assume so. Again, you attack the person and ignore the material.
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I'm not sure, but I would assume so. Again, you attack the person and ignore the material.
Uh... my point is that there is no "person." That's hardly an "attack" on anybody.

"Dr. Cary Parker, oceanographer at the Woods Hole Institute in Massachusetts" is a FICTIONAL character in a series of novels.

Yet again for you - and this will be the last time I tell you, I cannot hear your videos. There is no "material" there for me to address, just a loud and garbled noise that frustrates me.

I went looking for something, anything! that the guy named on the screen might have published so that I could engage your material. You can't earn a real doctorate without publishing something. The only thing I found was a character in fiction.

Jason, there's a reason why I hang out in places like this and not, say, on some chat channel or Youtube. It's because I can engage in the text based discussions. Instead of just posting what some flim-flam artist is selling at a conference somewhere and saying, "Yeah! That's good!" why don't you take a stand on the evidence?

What was it that this guy said that really resonated with you? What arguments did he make that you internalized and can now restate in your own words?

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Old 10-23-2010, 02:44 PM
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Uh... my point is that there is no "person." That's hardly an "attack" on anybody.

"Dr. Cary Parker, oceanographer at the Woods Hole Institute in Massachusetts" is a FICTIONAL character in a series of novels.

Yet again for you - and this will be the last time I tell you, I cannot hear your videos. There is no "material" there for me to address, just a loud and garbled noise that frustrates me.

I went looking for something, anything! that the guy named on the screen might have published so that I could engage your material. You can't earn a real doctorate without publishing something. The only thing I found was a character in fiction.

Jason, there's a reason why I hang out in places like this and not, say, on some chat channel or Youtube. It's because I can engage in the text based discussions. Instead of just posting what some flim-flam artist is selling at a conference somewhere and saying, "Yeah! That's good!" why don't you take a stand on the evidence?

What was it that this guy said that really resonated with you? What arguments did he make that you internalized and can now restate in your own words?
I didn't even know the guys name. I was just watching the video and posted the link.

I'd have to go back and check out the video to see what the guy was saying, I've forgotten already.

As for posting video, they are not necessarily for you to watch if you don't want to, just for the interest of anyone who does. You know many people read these thread who never post.

I'm with you on the videos though as far as making an argument. I personally don't care much for when posters just post a link or a video on a thread instead of engaging in discussion.

Thus, again, the videos are simply for the viewing pleasure and consideration of anyone interested enough to watch them.
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