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Originally Posted by coadie
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Did evolution just stop?" Beck asked rhetorically. "I haven't seen the half-monkey/half-person yet. ... There's no other species that's developing into half-people."
"I don't know how God creates. I don't know how we got here," he continued, wondering what God might tell him after he dies. "If God's like, 'Yup, you were a monkey once,' I'll be shocked, but I'll be cool with it."
Beck explained, "If God didn't create, if things evolve, then your rights evolve. You're not endowed by your Creator.
Even Glenn Becks religion has space to consider a Creator.
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Even though I like him in many ways, in many other ways Beck's a meathead. His "religion" says very emphatically that an Iron Age civilization flourished in the
Ohio River Valley region over 2,000 years ago. This civilization had large cities with fortified stone walls and towers. The warring sides were able to field armies numbering in the hundreds of thousands. The soldiers all wore armor and carried iron swords.
Yet we find no cities - and Joseph Smith pointed out the exact locations where many of these cities supposedly stood. No stone walls. No foundations for buildings, towers or walls. No Iron artifacts have ever been found in the Ohio River Valley dating to any time before the arrival of Europeans. In fact, no bronze, tin or copper either. Copper bells have been found much further south, but these were trade goods received from Meso-America.
Much of Glenn Beck's "faith" is in things that clearly never happened.
The "your rights evolved..." argument is specious. Perhaps the "rights" of some line of hominids "evolved" - but just try and tell that to the leopards and lions. Also, these "rights" are NOT something that the Bible teaches us:
1 Timothy 6:1 (NIV)
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All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered."
Ephesians 6:5;
Colossians 3:22;
Colossians 4:1 and
Titus 2:9.
You confound your own position every time you stray from the Word of God.
From a purely historical viewpoint, our rights DID EVOLVE. In the days of the Bible the rights of many persons were severely restricted or even nonexistent. The Bible clearly reports that fact.
Today, things are different. Things are generally a bit better - in large part because the message of the Bible took root in the hearts of many slave owners.
Philemon 1:10-22.
The concept of being "endowed with certain unalienable rights" was a product of the English Enlightenment and its affect upon the American colonists from England. I suppose both coadie and Glenn Beck use
the Jefferson Bible in their devotions, don't they? No "miracles." No "resurrection from the dead;" just "certain unalienable rights." It was Thomas Jefferson who penned those words, "unalienable rights" - quoting the English humanist
John Locke.
Yep. Human rights have "evolved." Actually reading the Bible will be a big help when you start talking about the Bible.
You lose yet another round, coadie.
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