Apostolic Identity??

[scotty]

Originally Posted by sandie

I also hope the true identity of any apostolic is love, how can it be otherwise and be apostolic or biblical or Christ like?
Jesus said everything hinged on loving Him and others as ourselves. I hope that isn't being lost in the shuffle of who did what and says what and believes what.
I'm very new here and I can tell you I'm getting zapped with the revelations on the UPC left and right.
I must have been sleeping thru all this...LOL! I just learned I'm a "three stepper" and my last two pastors were "one steppers" ...who knew...not me!

I do know there are hard people everywhere in every denomination, I saw that in UPC, I saw it in non-demon as well. But, I could never get away from grace and love as being the most important attributes of Jesus and what He expects of His children. Those attributes are what drew me to Him...somehow, somewhere this Jewish girl knew Jesus loved me and even if it had to be a secret with Him and I, I loved Him too.
Now, for that to shine thru me like it should is my prayer!

This is my take as well, I have attended several UPC most of my life but I have not seen some of the things that get brought up here, if they are true then its sad, just hasnt been my experience. But it is assumed that the whole org is such a terrible thing.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by scotty

This is my take as well, I have attended several UPC most of my life but I have not seen some of the things that get brought up here, if they are true then its sad, just hasnt been my experience. But it is assumed that the whole org is such a terrible thing.

I haven't seen anything like I've been reading here either....maybe some personality conflicts and some getting off the truth in how to treat others, but my pastors were not of anything but love...three steppers and one steppers alike. At one point we had an usher who was refusing to allow people into the church (vistors mind you) that weren't dressed what he thought they should be...the pastor brought that to a screeching halt and not long after that particular usher was gone.
I don't see the fairness in painting the whole org with a broad brush, but that's just my opinion.