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So if I can ask....how did your mother demonstrate fear?
Many ways. If there was bad news for the country she took it to the furthest degree....energy crisis, no lights just candles, she voiced concern daily about any number of situations. She was nervous and upset almost all the time over things she had no control over. She carried the weight of the world on her shoulders.
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Many ways. If there was bad news for the country she took it to the furthest degree....energy crisis, no lights just candles, she voiced concern daily about any number of situations. She was nervous and upset almost all the time over things she had no control over. She carried the weight of the world on her shoulders.

Ok, got it. I can totally relate to that.

I'm not the "Answer-man" here, but could you consider filling your mind, to the point of overload, with funny, positive, uplifting things? It's the Phil 4:8 strategy. Whatever things are lovely, good report....think on these things. Make the decision. Read books about positive thinking, "Be transformed by changing the way you think" (Romans 12:2, NLT). It is a LONG process, but it can be done.
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Ok, got it. I can totally relate to that.

I'm not the "Answer-man" here, but could you consider filling your mind, to the point of overload, with funny, positive, uplifting things? It's the Phil 4:8 strategy. Whatever things are lovely, good report....think on these things. Make the decision. Read books about positive thinking, "Be transformed by changing the way you think" (Romans 12:2, NLT). It is a LONG process, but it can be done.
I've been trying and it being a LONG process is so right. It seems that when I think I've got it conqured or at least under control the thing I fear most becomes reality.
Thankfully God never gives up on me!
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I've been trying and it being a LONG process is so right. It seems that when I think I've got it conqured or at least under control the thing I fear most becomes reality.
Thankfully God never gives up on me!
Thanks again for your response.

As a child, I ended every bedtime prayer with, "...and Jesus, please don't let me die and go to hell." There are times the fear comes back and I reinforce God's grace by quoting as much scripture of God's love and grace, as I can.

I still tend to see bad before good. I don't know if I'll ever rid myself of the negativism, fear, and gloominess. But so often, positivity is a choice that has to be made.....daily. In II Corinthians 4, where Paul said "We are pressed on every side by troubles, but we are not crushed and broken. We are perplexed, but we don't give up and quit. We are hunted down, but God never abandons us. We get knocked down, but we get up again and keep going", a few verses later he said:

"That is why we never give up. Though our bodies are dying, our spirits are being renewed every day."


Overcoming anything.....anything.....is a daily process. AA has tapped into this truth. Unfortunately, many times, Pentecostals are fed the "Magic Wand" strategy where we go to church, whoop it up, speak in tongues, and everything is fine forever. But it doesn't work that way. It's a daily thing.
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As a child, I ended every bedtime prayer with, "...and Jesus, please don't let me die and go to hell." There are times the fear comes back and I reinforce God's grace by quoting as much scripture of God's love and grace, as I can.

I still tend to see bad before good. I don't know if I'll ever rid myself of the negativism, fear, and gloominess. But so often, positivity is a choice that has to be made.....daily. In II Corinthians 4, where Paul said "We are pressed on every side by troubles, but we are not crushed and broken. We are perplexed, but we don't give up and quit. We are hunted down, but God never abandons us. We get knocked down, but we get up again and keep going", a few verses later he said:

"That is why we never give up. Though our bodies are dying, our spirits are being renewed every day."


Overcoming anything.....anything.....is a daily process. AA has tapped into this truth. Unfortunately, many times, Pentecostals are fed the "Magic Wand" strategy where we go to church, whoop it up, speak in tongues, and everything is fine forever. But it doesn't work that way. It's a daily thing.
I see why you can relate...praying not to go to hell as a child! oy

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Thanks again, you've been very helpful.
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I see why you can relate...praying not to go to hell as a child! oy

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Thanks again, you've been very helpful.

I hope I have been.

One last thing: I told this recently in another thread, but I had an incredible spiritual experience some years ago. I used to watch the "Hour of Power" with Robert Schuller every week. It was my dose of needed positivity every week.

I was raised in the "Us-four-no-more" "It's SOOO hard to live for Jesus" mentality and one day, following the grand, thunderous opening to the broadcast, Schuller stood up with his flowing robe, stretched out his arms and bellowed, "Todaaaay.........is a Wooooonnnderful day........to be........a Chrrrrristian". And the pipe organ blew the walls down with the intro to the next song.

Something happened in me that day that has never left me. I took up the "Easy yoke" and "Light burden" of Christ and I've never set it down again. Yes, it's a daily renewal, but I now know that it's truly a wonderful day to be a Christian.
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I hope I have been.

One last thing: I told this recently in another thread, but I had an incredible spiritual experience some years ago. I used to watch the "Hour of Power" with Robert Schuller every week. It was my dose of needed positivity every week.

I was raised in the "Us-four-no-more" "It's SOOO hard to live for Jesus" mentality and one day, following the grand, thunderous opening to the broadcast, Schuller stood up with his flowing robe, stretched out his arms and bellowed, "Todaaaay.........is a Wooooonnnderful day........to be........a Chrrrrristian". And the pipe organ blew the walls down with the intro to the next song.

Something happened in me that day that has never left me. I took up the "Easy yoke" and "Light burden" of Christ and I've never set it down again. Yes, it's a daily renewal, but I now know that it's truly a wonderful day to be a Christian.
Everyday with Jesus is sweeter than the day before. I agree that all to often some folks get into the us 4 and no more, hold the fort mentality, but that's not the mentality of Christ. That type of thinking want encourage anyone to follow you as you folow Christ.
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I hope I have been.

One last thing: I told this recently in another thread, but I had an incredible spiritual experience some years ago. I used to watch the "Hour of Power" with Robert Schuller every week. It was my dose of needed positivity every week.

I was raised in the "Us-four-no-more" "It's SOOO hard to live for Jesus" mentality and one day, following the grand, thunderous opening to the broadcast, Schuller stood up with his flowing robe, stretched out his arms and bellowed, "Todaaaay.........is a Wooooonnnderful day........to be........a Chrrrrristian". And the pipe organ blew the walls down with the intro to the next song.

Something happened in me that day that has never left me. I took up the "Easy yoke" and "Light burden" of Christ and I've never set it down again. Yes, it's a daily renewal, but I now know that it's truly a wonderful day to be a Christian.
That's wonderful, sounds like God lifted your burden.
I wasn't raised in the same atmosphere, other then the fearful home I grew up in, but it's been very hard to seperate the fear from one place to another.

When the burden gets too heavy for me God prompts me and reminds me of the time I tried to say good-bye to Him, thanking Him for trying to save me, but I just couldn't live up to what I thought He and others expected.
He stopped me in my silly farewell and said: "Love Me, love others and I'll take care of the rest"! Now, that was liberating. I still feel His wonderful presence when I think of it.
He's far better, far kinder, far more merciful then anyone unknowingly, or knowingly gives Him credit.
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As a child, I ended every bedtime prayer with, "...and Jesus, please don't let me die and go to hell." There are times the fear comes back and I reinforce God's grace by quoting as much scripture of God's love and grace, as I can.

I still tend to see bad before good. I don't know if I'll ever rid myself of the negativism, fear, and gloominess. But so often, positivity is a choice that has to be made.....daily. In II Corinthians 4, where Paul said "We are pressed on every side by troubles, but we are not crushed and broken. We are perplexed, but we don't give up and quit. We are hunted down, but God never abandons us. We get knocked down, but we get up again and keep going", a few verses later he said:

"That is why we never give up. Though our bodies are dying, our spirits are being renewed every day."


Overcoming anything.....anything.....is a daily process. AA has tapped into this truth. Unfortunately, many times, Pentecostals are fed the "Magic Wand" strategy where we go to church, whoop it up, speak in tongues, and everything is fine forever. But it doesn't work that way. It's a daily thing.

WOW! I guess it's no wonder you grabbed onto a pendulum when given opportunity. I did the buggy for Jesus thing and still yet never experienced such eternal insecurity!
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