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Old 11-04-2010, 12:14 PM
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Im not so sure. They are leaving for one reason and one reason only, they are over taxed. Period. History has proven that tax cuts give them not only the incentive to stay but to expand and grow. Its funny however that companies from other countries can come here and build to sell here for apparently cheaper than they can just export to here, Hmmmm.
I don't know that you can say that they are all only leaving for one reason alone. Is there not a chance that some are leaving to take advantage of the fact that they don't have to pay people much in some countries and not have to deal with some of the issues that may arise when employing Americans?
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:45 PM
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I don't know that you can say that they are all only leaving for one reason alone. Is there not a chance that some are leaving to take advantage of the fact that they don't have to pay people much in some countries and not have to deal with some of the issues that may arise when employing Americans?
I would agree there are some who would fall into that catagory. The unions have made the American workforce inept. They expect more for less. In other countries people are happy to do anything for any amount of money.

I worked on an asphalt crew and one year we were sent to Honduras to show a local company that had just bought equipment from us how to operate it and run a crew. One day our street sweeper broke down, the locals immediatly stepped into the woods and come back out with tree branches as big as they were and continued sweeping the road ahead of the paving machine. You wont see that kind of dedication in this country, we have illegals sneaking in to do the work that "Americans wont do", tell me what thats about ?
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:00 PM
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I would agree there are some who would fall into that catagory. The unions have made the American workforce inept. They expect more for less. In other countries people are happy to do anything for any amount of money.

I worked on an asphalt crew and one year we were sent to Honduras to show a local company that had just bought equipment from us how to operate it and run a crew. One day our street sweeper broke down, the locals immediatly stepped into the woods and come back out with tree branches as big as they were and continued sweeping the road ahead of the paving machine. You wont see that kind of dedication in this country, we have illegals sneaking in to do the work that "Americans wont do", tell me what thats about ?
I'm not arguing that companies should not necessarily be allowed to create their products in other parts of the world. I'm just asking if there is any merit to the argument that it is detrimental to the US economy.
I do know that people in most parts of the world are willing to work for much less that Americans are, I'm just wondering if it is in our best interest to open the doors and give everyone that option. Should we as American consumers punish those companies?
One thing to factor in in our unwillingness to work for what some others may is our cost of living here. I don't think we could afford to work for what some do.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:07 PM
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I'm not arguing that companies should not necessarily be allowed to create their products in other parts of the world. I'm just asking if there is any merit to the argument that it is detrimental to the US economy.
I do know that people in most parts of the world are willing to work for much less that Americans are, I'm just wondering if it is in our best interest to open the doors and give everyone that option. Should we as American consumers punish those companies?
One thing to factor in in our unwillingness to work for what some others may is our cost of living here. I don't think we could afford to work for what some do.
Your last factor explains your first. Your right, we couldn't live in America on what they are paying overseas workers. On the flip side of that, we would not be able to afford alot of products that are currently produced overseas were they produced here because they would cost more. Like it has been said, products produced out of country at a lower cost are benificial to us, the consumer. So the question becomes, especially in our current economic situation, can we as consumers afford to punish those companies.
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I don't know that you can say that they are all only leaving for one reason alone. Is there not a chance that some are leaving to take advantage of the fact that they don't have to pay people much in some countries and not have to deal with some of the issues that may arise when employing Americans?
http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_s...-at-S-C--plant

The "typical" German autoworker makes about $30.00 an hour. The "typical" Detroit autoworker makes at least that much plus has HUGE union mandated pension and benefit expenses related to organized crime which runs the unions.

"Simple folk" in South Carolina are happy to get $15.00 an hour.

Where would you build if you were BMW?

And... who benefits? The unemployed in South Carolina and the consumers of BMW automobiles.

There are many parts of the U.S. that can compete quite well with "foreign labor."
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[QUOTE=pelathais;983375]http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_s...-at-S-C--plant

The "typical" German autoworker makes about $30.00 an hour. The "typical" Detroit autoworker makes at least that much plus has HUGE union mandated pension and benefit expenses related to organized crime which runs the unions.

"Simple folk" in South Carolina are happy to get $15.00 an hour.

Where would you build if you were BMW?

And... who benefits? The unemployed in South Carolina and the consumers of BMW automobiles.

There are many parts of the U.S. that can compete quite well with "foreign labor."[/QUOTE]



That depends on the industry you are talking of.
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http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_s...-at-S-C--plant

The "typical" German autoworker makes about $30.00 an hour. The "typical" Detroit autoworker makes at least that much plus has HUGE union mandated pension and benefit expenses related to organized crime which runs the unions.

"Simple folk" in South Carolina are happy to get $15.00 an hour.

Where would you build if you were BMW?

And... who benefits? The unemployed in South Carolina and the consumers of BMW automobiles.

There are many parts of the U.S. that can compete quite well with "foreign labor."[/QUOTE]



That depends on the industry you are talking of.
Ford labor costs are over 70 dollars an hour.

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http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_s...-at-S-C--plant

The "typical" German autoworker makes about $30.00 an hour. The "typical" Detroit autoworker makes at least that much plus has HUGE union mandated pension and benefit expenses related to organized crime which runs the unions.

"Simple folk" in South Carolina are happy to get $15.00 an hour.

Where would you build if you were BMW?

And... who benefits? The unemployed in South Carolina and the consumers of BMW automobiles.

There are many parts of the U.S. that can compete quite well with "foreign labor."
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That depends on the industry you are talking of.
No, I'd be willing to say "any industry." There are Americans willing to do the work in any industry if the wages and benefits make sense to them.

American companies (as well as foreign companies) will move their manufacturing around to get the lowest expense. This practice benefits the consumers. Because BMW is making cars in South Carolina at half the wage costs they see in Germany, they can sell those BMWs at a lower cost.

The consumer benefits.

It's not a perfect system, but free enterprise will always benefit the consumer of customer.
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