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Old 11-04-2010, 11:33 AM
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I agree with free enterprise. However, is there nothing to the impact of having the major corporations taking production to other countries and selling the products here? I am not an economist by any stretch of the imagination, but I would think that this is the factor that history cannot address since this sort of global economy is a relatively new possibility.
Im not so sure. They are leaving for one reason and one reason only, they are over taxed. Period. History has proven that tax cuts give them not only the incentive to stay but to expand and grow. Its funny however that companies from other countries can come here and build to sell here for apparently cheaper than they can just export to here, Hmmmm.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:56 AM
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How many businesses have you started? Have you laid everything on the line to start a business?
It's really easy (and stupid) to talk down someone else's efforts. And if the bottom line isn't making a profit, just exactly how long do you think a business would stay operating?
good grief

Get rid of the unions, they've out lived their usefullness. They're nothing more then a politicial action arm of the dems. Let businesses run with just the necessary regulations, stop taxing them to death and watch this economy come roaring back.
There can be a balance.

A company can keep their operations and employees in America and still make money-- maybe not as much.

Stop making excuses for their greed!

The actions of some of these Americans are more treacherous than China-- at least we don't expect China to give back to the country that is helping to make them rich.

These guys make thier fortunes on America and care very little about keeping America employed.

This problem has existed long before taxes ever became a talking point or an "issue".
So with the pro-business environment of a GOP WH, House, and Senate, there were not any businesses that moved their operations overseas?
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:01 PM
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By the way, I have started two businesses.

One failed, one is growing.

Yes, I do have a burning desire to give back to my country-- even my community and will invest into my community and into the lives of others once my business is thriving and stable.


The commitment I have to my community is not impossible for these companies that funnel their American-earned dollars somewhere else and back into their pockets.



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Old 11-04-2010, 12:10 PM
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By the way, I have started two businesses.

One failed, one is growing.

Yes, I do have a burning desire to give back to my country-- even my community and will invest into my community and into the lives of others once my business is thriving and stable.


The commitment I have to my community is not impossible for these companies that funnel their American-earned dollars somewhere else and back into their pockets.



"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country!"

--a decent President once said this
Too bad the ideology of President Kennedy doesn't extend to the liberal politicians today.
It's all about what your government and the money of hard working Americans can do for you.

You accuse me of making excuses for greed. Well, I can turn right around and say you're making excuses for the power hungry liberal polilticians.

Make the enviroment secure for businesses, boot the unions, enforce common sense regulations, lower taxes and this economy will bounce back.
Those are just simple, ordinary facts.

Where I live over 10,000 jobs just left this state for another, simply due to the lower taxes. This same company just told a good deal of their employees they will have to drop their medical coverage.
I don't know what's so hard to understand about the liberal socialist policies being bad for any business enviorment and country.

My father raised 8 children while my mother stayed home. He was as blue collar a worker as they come, how could he do it? He took most of his pay check home.

The government needs to just plain back off.
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Im not so sure. They are leaving for one reason and one reason only, they are over taxed. Period. History has proven that tax cuts give them not only the incentive to stay but to expand and grow. Its funny however that companies from other countries can come here and build to sell here for apparently cheaper than they can just export to here, Hmmmm.
I don't know that you can say that they are all only leaving for one reason alone. Is there not a chance that some are leaving to take advantage of the fact that they don't have to pay people much in some countries and not have to deal with some of the issues that may arise when employing Americans?
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There can be a balance.

A company can keep their operations and employees in America and still make money-- maybe not as much.

Stop making excuses for their greed!

The actions of some of these Americans are more treacherous than China-- at least we don't expect China to give back to the country that is helping to make them rich.

These guys make thier fortunes on America and care very little about keeping America employed.

This problem has existed long before taxes ever became a talking point or an "issue".
So with the pro-business environment of a GOP WH, House, and Senate, there were not any businesses that moved their operations overseas?
"Their greed" is YOUR "greed."

The real beneficiaries of lower cost foreign labor are the American consumers who can purchase their goods at cheaper prices.

The corporate profit margins remain nearly the same when a process is moved overseas. It's just that this company can now sell their goods and services at a lower price in America, undercutting their competitors.

This isn't a case of "corporate greed." It's a simple case of getting something done at a lower cost. The one who benefits is the consumer.
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I don't know that you can say that they are all only leaving for one reason alone. Is there not a chance that some are leaving to take advantage of the fact that they don't have to pay people much in some countries and not have to deal with some of the issues that may arise when employing Americans?
I would agree there are some who would fall into that catagory. The unions have made the American workforce inept. They expect more for less. In other countries people are happy to do anything for any amount of money.

I worked on an asphalt crew and one year we were sent to Honduras to show a local company that had just bought equipment from us how to operate it and run a crew. One day our street sweeper broke down, the locals immediatly stepped into the woods and come back out with tree branches as big as they were and continued sweeping the road ahead of the paving machine. You wont see that kind of dedication in this country, we have illegals sneaking in to do the work that "Americans wont do", tell me what thats about ?
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I don't know that you can say that they are all only leaving for one reason alone. Is there not a chance that some are leaving to take advantage of the fact that they don't have to pay people much in some countries and not have to deal with some of the issues that may arise when employing Americans?
http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_s...-at-S-C--plant

The "typical" German autoworker makes about $30.00 an hour. The "typical" Detroit autoworker makes at least that much plus has HUGE union mandated pension and benefit expenses related to organized crime which runs the unions.

"Simple folk" in South Carolina are happy to get $15.00 an hour.

Where would you build if you were BMW?

And... who benefits? The unemployed in South Carolina and the consumers of BMW automobiles.

There are many parts of the U.S. that can compete quite well with "foreign labor."
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These guys make thier fortunes on America and care very little about keeping America employed.
This is a dumb statement. If America is unemployed then who is going to make them rich by buying their products and services. Any company who wishes to succeed has to realize that the state of the economy (including employment) is vital.
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By the way, I have started two businesses.

One failed, one is growing.
Yes, I do have a burning desire to give back to my country-- even my community and will invest into my community and into the lives of others once my business is thriving and stable.


The commitment I have to my community is not impossible for these companies that funnel their American-earned dollars somewhere else and back into their pockets.



"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country!"

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Unless yoiu are paying your workers 65,000 a year and full health coverage plus strong profit sharing, i take it you are one of the greedy companies you bash daily.

You are committed to the Obama regime which chokes business startups with regulations and financing hurdles.
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