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Old 04-19-2010, 04:38 PM
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First, it is clear to me that, regardless of whether or not error in doctrine is always sin, error in doctrine is always a consequence of sin. When the Lord returns and we join him in heaven, there will no longer be disagreements about doctrine. Disagreements about baptism, eschatology and other issues will be put away once and for all. And we all look forward to that day.
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Did the writer truly mean for it to come out this way? If I've understood him correctly, he's saying that his "friend" who baptizes infants does so because of "sin." AND - that one of those "godly men" is teaching a particular view of eschatology because of sin.

I think an "error in doctrine" can come about with all of the best intentions and have nothing overtly to do with sin. And by "error" I'm obviously talking about those "secondary issues" as the writer calls them.

Of course, some might teach that Jesus Christ possessed no divinity and do so simply out of ignorance. Apollos and the disciples of John at Ephesus no doubt had such an incomplete idea about who the Messiah was that their teaching may have been prone to error. I don't think this was the result of sin.
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Re: Is error in doctrine always sin?

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...Catholics that are filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues-- are these our brothers and sisters in Christ? Will they be dancing around The Throne with us?
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in my opinion, yes

but not just Catholics who have been baptized in the Spirit,
Catholics who believe that Jesus is the Son of God who died for their sins and rose again.
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Did the writer truly mean for it to come out this way? If I've understood him correctly, he's saying that his "friend" who baptizes infants does so because of "sin." AND - that one of those "godly men" is teaching a particular view of eschatology because of sin.

I think an "error in doctrine" can come about with all of the best intentions and have nothing overtly to do with sin. And by "error" I'm obviously talking about those "secondary issues" as the writer calls them.

Of course, some might teach that Jesus Christ possessed no divinity and do so simply out of ignorance. Apollos and the disciples of John at Ephesus no doubt had such an incomplete idea about who the Messiah was that their teaching may have been prone to error. I don't think this was the result of sin.
And "So we can suffer consequences of sin without being punished for them." Suffering isn't punishment?

And "The boy who is born with a mental disability suffers a lifelong consequence of sin"?

And "When a person is mistaken it is because they are deceived. And if they are deceived it is because their hearts were not right as far as sincerity goes at a point in time, . . . ". Oh. Sorry. That was someone else, in a different thread. (Relevant to this one, though!)
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And "So we can suffer consequences of sin without being punished for them." Suffering isn't punishment?

And "The boy who is born with a mental disability suffers a lifelong consequence of sin"?

And "When a person is mistaken it is because they are deceived. And if they are deceived it is because their hearts were not right as far as sincerity goes at a point in time, . . . ". Oh. Sorry. That was someone else, in a different thread. (Relevant to this one, though!)
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I'm here for you, Bro; but don't take your angst with someone else out on me. I can barely keep track of what day of the week it is.
LOL, just venting, and you got in caught in the crossfire.
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Re: Is error in doctrine always sin?

BTW, some doctrines are called a "doctrine of devils" or some such. Is it a sin to believe those doctrines? E.g., Trinitarianism has been called that here on AFF, if I recall. Any other examples? How about cessationism? Reincarnation? Deism?
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BTW, some doctrines are called a "doctrine of devils" or some such. Is it a sin to believe those doctrines? E.g., Trinitarianism has been called that here on AFF, if I recall. Any other examples? How about cessationism? Reincarnation? Deism?
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Who on AFF has admitted to "error in doctrine?" I thought we were all right!

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