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Old 06-13-2011, 08:58 PM
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Church Incorparation is NOT of God

Who is your creator; the State or God? Who is the sovereign head and authority above your 'church'; the State or God? Does your 'church' assemble for business; or do you assemble in Christ? Where does your 'church' dwell; in commerce or in God?

Does your corporation have a Board of Directors? Is there a corporate Financial Committee or a Building Committee? Do you have a corporate list of members? (Members of Corporate Churches are considered shareholders of the corporation and are personally responsible for all corporate judgments, liens, liabilities, etc.) If so, your corporate officers, committees, and members are legally accountable for the "Charitable Organization";
There will be those who can explain this away, but not with scriptures, only with there on wise words! Do you have the Time to study this out, or just watch more TV instead. In
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:01 PM
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Re: Church Incorparation is NOT of God

What scriptures do you use to forbid churches from incorporating or having a Board of Directors or a Financial Committee?
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:13 PM
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Re: Church Incorparation is NOT of God

emty answer, you have. When did God need help from the Goverment to be relavant. You seem to protect the goverment being over the church.
Lets protect truth.
Something about truth, no one like to see it.

We live in a world where opinions rule and reasoning. Church history proves, until 1964 this trend did not start in the church.
If churches are under Goverment rule, then when will the Goverment comand the church Hire gay Pastors.
Tell me anything the Goverment rules you think they did a great Job At.
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:20 PM
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emty answer, you have. When did God need help from the Goverment to be relavant. You seem to protect the goverment being over the church.
Lets protect truth.
Something about truth, no one like to see it.

We live in a world where opinions rule and reasoning. Church history proves, until 1964 this trend did not start in the church.
If churches are under Goverment rule, then when will the Goverment comand the church Hire gay Pastors.
Tell me anything the Goverment rules you think they did a great Job At.
Amazing, first of all she asked a question not gave an empty answer.

Second it's really incredible that from her question you drew your conclusions that she is protecting the government over the church

third if it's TRUTH then why did you avoid answering her question with scriptures like she askjed

Fourth the church is NOT under the government. The government has no say in whether a church hires a homosexual. You might be thinking of China where the have an official church that has to abide by certain government restrictions

Fifth..are you on crack? Just sayin
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:23 PM
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emty answer, you have. When did God need help from the Goverment to be relavant. You seem to protect the goverment being over the church.
Lets protect truth.
Something about truth, no one like to see it.
It wasn't an answer. It was a question. Let me repeat it: What scriptures do you use to forbid churches from incorporating or having a Board of Directors or a Financial Committee?

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We live in a world where opinions rule and reasoning.
True. So back your position with scripture instead of reasoning and opinions.
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:27 PM
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Amazing, first of all she asked a question not gave an empty answer.

Second it's really incredible that from her question you drew your conclusions that she is protecting the government over the church

third if it's TRUTH then why did you avoid answering her question with scriptures like she askjed

Fourth the church is NOT under the government. The government has no say in whether a church hires a homosexual. You might be thinking of China where the have an official church that has to abide by certain government restrictions

Fifth..are you on crack? Just sayin
Thanks, Prax. It's a little confusing to ask a question and be accused of giving an answer.
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:36 PM
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:31 AM
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Re: Church Incorparation is NOT of God

I would like to state a few things
1) Why does a church incorporate? A: To limit the liability on those in charge, both civil and some criminal.
2) Why have a board of "Deacons"? A: It is a government mandate that any non-profit organization have a board of directors that over see how monies are spent. Why? To limit the corruption that can happen in all non-profit organizations.
3) Is there in scripture that dictates against a structured organization? A: No, it is actually demands it with in the 5 fold ministry, Paul directions to Pastors and Deacons, Old Testament Temple structure, etc.
4) Why are you against it? A: Some leader step on your toes? Following another idiot like Harold Camping? This is just another "IRS is unconstitutional, so don't pay them" type scam.
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:40 AM
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:14 AM
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emty answer, you have. When did God need help from the Goverment to be relavant. You seem to protect the goverment being over the church.
Lets protect truth.
Something about truth, no one like to see it.

We live in a world where opinions rule and reasoning. Church history proves, until 1964 this trend did not start in the church.
If churches are under Goverment rule, then when will the Goverment comand the church Hire gay Pastors.
Tell me anything the Goverment rules you think they did a great Job At.
If anything, perhaps you should reconsider the title of the thread since you immediately went off course with Government in responding to MissB's response to your confusing posts and responses.

Seems like a bipolar thread where you can't make up your mind, first, on what the intent was behind posting it. Secondly, to swing so far another direction in your responses has me scratching my head in confusion.

Now, for the sake of clarification, which topic would you be interested in allowing like-minded responses to come? Church Incorporation or Separation of Church and State, or Hiring Gay Pastors?
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