I challenge Cooper! Find an Apostolic Church and submit....

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

Coop...

I have to say I think OP's challenge is sincere and in love. It sure couldn't hurt to give it a try.

Bret Prince my Brother in The Lord Jesus, Thank you for your advice.

[Brett Prince]

BTW, Coop...

I think your version of "In His Hands" is a wonderful rendition.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by COOPER

I love you Coon and pray that I will only be an 1/8 of the man you are.

I am so un-worthy of your love and kindness.

Cooper

Cooper,

In the first place, I am a man, and you are a man.

Whatever I am that is worthwhile, I am only because of the grace of a merciful God.

That same grace is available to everyone. You are not of less worth than anyone else.

And you aren't unworthy of love and kindness.

I only said what I said to explain why sometimes people get vexed with you and back off from trying to help.

I personally have prayed for you many times, and have always felt that you had much potential and are a gifted man. I have said that over and over again.

But all that potential is going to be just so much unfulfilled and buried talent unless you can find it within yourself to work in harmony with a truth-preaching body and pastor.

I wish you well, and decided a while back that I didn't want any more shoot outs with you.

It is frustrating as a pastor to see someone who has so much to offer the Kingdom of God not utilizing abilities that many committed and faithful people would love to have to offer.

[berkeley]

A man was fleeing to a city of refuge... he couldn't decide whether ot enter or not... he was killed at the gate of the city... sometimes we run out of time..

[Carpenter]

You know, what does it matter if a person knows that you or I are praying for him? Is it so they can somehow feel...how do I put this...guilt, or compulsion to change their ways through influence, peer pressure, or obligation?

I appreciate the prayers of everyone that would utter my name in intercessory prayer, however, just because someone says they are praying for me doesn't mean I need to change my ways to actually please that person.

This is really common sense that I would hope most every one here would agree with!






















Gotcha...see what I mean?

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Cooper,

In the first place, I am a man, and you are a man.

Whatever I am that is worthwhile, I am only because of the grace of a merciful God.

That same grace is available to everyone. You are not of less worth than anyone else.

And you aren't unworthy of love and kindness.

I only said what I said to explain why sometimes people get vexed with you and back off from trying to help.

I personally have prayed for you many times, and have always felt that you had much potential and are a gifted man. I have said that over and over again.

But all that potential is going to be just so much unfulfilled and buried talent unless you can find it within yourself to work in harmony with a truth-preaching body and pastor.

I wish you well, and decided a while back that I didn't want any more shoot outs with you.

It is frustrating as a pastor to see someone who has so much to offer the Kingdom of God not utilizing abilities that many committed and faithful people would love to have to offer.

This could be said about lots of people, myself included...but only to an extent of course.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

You know, what does it matter if a person knows that you or I are praying for him? Is it so they can somehow feel...how do I put this...guilt, or compulsion to change their ways through influence, peer pressure, or obligation?

I appreciate the prayers of everyone that would utter my name in intercessory prayer, however, just because someone says they are praying for me doesn't mean I need to change my ways to actually [I]please/I] that person.

This is really common sense that I would hope most every one here would agree with!


Gotcha...see what I mean?

Carpenter

I don't propose to speak for everyone, but my posting about praying for Cooper was simply to let him know that I was CONCERNED....

PERIOD.

That's all.

The rest is left up to him.

BTW after our mutual friend returned from Colorado and he told me what a nice person you seemed to be, I have prayed or you.

Now go feel guilty.

[rgcraig]

I appreciate the turn this thread has taken.

There are different ways to say things:

1. Brother, I'm concerned for you and praying for you to find peace in your life.

2. Brother, I'm praying for you, you need it.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Carpenter

I don't propose to speak for everyone, but my posting about praying for Cooper was simply to let him know that I was CONCERNED....

PERIOD.

That's all.

The rest is left up to him.

BTW after our mutual friend returned from Colorado and he told me what a nice person you seemed to be, I have prayed or you.

Now go feel guilty.

SSShhhhhh! Don't let my secret out!

Like I said, I covet the prayers of anyone concerned enough to say my name as they are exhaling during prayer. However, I have had bunches of people come up to me in church to say, "oooooohhhh brooother, I bean praaying for Goad to get you back up on that platform..." I have had them tell me they have had dreams, visions, words of wisdom, and yada yada yadas...


...funny though, I have had exactly ONE guy that I remain very very close friends with to even call me to touch base.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

SSShhhhhh! Don't let my secret out!

Like I said, I covet the prayers of anyone concerned enough to say my name as they are exhaling during prayer. However, I have had bunches of people come up to me in church to say, "oooooohhhh brooother, I bean praaying for Goad to get you back up on that platform..." I have had them tell me they have had dreams, visions, words of wisdom, and yada yada yadas...


...funny though, I have had exactly ONE guy that I remain very very close friends with to even call me to touch base.

You know sometimes Carp church folks just don't know what to do they don't want to be overbearing and nosy(of course some do) so they tend to shy away not because do not care but do not know to what extent you want them. There have been folks who left I did not know how to work with them if I pursued them I got the idea I was worrisome and annoying. But if I didn't make contact it seemed I was uncaring. It is a real problem to me as a pastor and I am sure it would be to saints to exactly know what to do. But like the others you are on my mind and from time to time I pray for you.