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Old 12-29-2010, 03:12 PM
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Levels of sin

Just for the sake of discussion. Is there not different levels of sin? a simple example.. A man steals and feeds his family or the same man hits abuses and hurts his family. I think if we finite humans can understand the difference in sins.. Surely the allknowing God of heaven understands the difference. The blanket statement that sin is sin and it'll all take you to hell anyways so it's all the same has always been an ignorant thing for someone to say. God understands the intent and sees the ending when all we see through is a dark glass.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:17 PM
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Re: Levels of sin

Uh, no. Do you not understand God's commandment's? Thou shalt not is very plain.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:21 PM
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Uh, no. Do you not understand God's commandment's? Thou shalt not is very plain.
Really? You don't think God takes into account the intent of a transgression?
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:23 PM
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Re: Levels of sin

We have classified sins as mortal and venial, and, of course some holiness folks have long lists of things that are "sins" that don't seem to bother the consciences of other Christians.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:29 PM
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Really? You don't think God takes into account the intent of a transgression?
I don't think we can "accidentally" sin. Sin is willful disobedience to God's laws. You brought up stealing to feed a family as well as abusing your family. Which intent was okay? I love you so I will steal for you, I love you but I will abuse you? Because most people that abuse their souses claim to love them. Most pedophiles claim they are showing love to their victims. You don't think God knows the difference?
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:31 PM
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Or maybe steal to feed your family, or steal to feed your addiction? Something like that? Stealing for any reason is sin.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:42 PM
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Or maybe steal to feed your family, or steal to feed your addiction? Something like that? Stealing for any reason is sin.
I agree.. All stealing is sin. But.. Molesting your child versus stealing to feed your child is a huge difference in the sight of the God I understand.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:44 PM
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I agree.. All stealing is sin. But.. Molesting your child versus stealing to feed your child is a huge difference in the sight of the God I understand.
Both can be forgiven, still doesn't mean that it isn't a sin.
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I agree.. All stealing is sin. But.. Molesting your child versus stealing to feed your child is a huge difference in the sight of the God I understand.
The punishment is the same under the law of sin ... death ... from the self-righteous pew sitter to the serial killer.

A lying tongue and breaking a vow is as much an abomination as are your pet abominations, Tim.

The differences, perceptions and nuances lie in how the consequences play out among us mortals based on values we attach.
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:50 PM
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Re: Levels of sin

The Apostle Paul spoke of differences in sin in
1 Corinthians 5:1 where there was fornication in the church that would not even be named among the Goyim.

And in 1 Corinthians 6:15-20 where he spoke of Christians who were joining their bodies, which are the temple of God, to the bodies of harlots.
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