Levels of sin

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by DAII

Do I still owe you a steak dinner?

Just quit telling the wife to say you are not home.



Seriously, I was in your neighborhood last August. I was wondering how I could find you since I had a few extra hours on my hands.

We could have had a great argument or something.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Blashemy of the Holy Ghost is THE Biggest sin. ( is that a different level/category)?

Jesus said some serious things against people offending the little children ( new converts).

Is it fair to say Jesus has less tolerance for certain sins then others.. and how would that not be interpreted a different level?

Prov. 6:16-19 abominations seem to be on another level then hate.

Again.. Intent and God knowing our hearts and true motives determines His patience and or mercy towards us. Yet time and chance happens to all and we cannot judge what happens or doesn't happen to people. God is good.. Righteous... And whatever He allows to happen ultimate good will come out of it when His will is sought and done.

(pardon the rambling)

I think it is different, but that is simply one that successfully resists the prompting of the Holy Spirit to repent. When the desire to get right with God is gone and the prompting of the H S means nothing, then there is no hope...

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Yes indeed. 22 oz bone in Ribeye blackened, cooked to medium, served with an 8 oz tail on the side. Add some steamed asparagus with a lobster bisque. Creme Brule and a vaculator coffee too please.

Does that come with a rib spreader for the coronary bypass which follows?

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by DAII

Since Apprehended and Tim are struggling for the counter-argument to greater levels of sin .. let me help with the cardinal argument ...

It's said by Jesus himself speaking of Judas' betrayal to Pontius Pilate who also plays a role in Jesus death:


John 19:11, "...He that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin."

Socialite care to engage this verse in light of what has been said thus far?

I would think a great emphasis needs to be placed on understanding the word "greater" here. I have to admit there is a sense of "degrees" here. Although, I view this in light of James 2:10: “For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all."

Here is where "degrees" are involved ---

The degree of one’s guilt is relative to the degree of one’s knowledge of truth. John 19, Matt. 10:16; 11:21-24

The degree of one’s guilt is relative to the degree of one’s intention involved in the sin.

There is an unpardonable sin. (Mark 3:28-29)

That these sins will bring greater punishment, or even judgement, does not mean the person is cast away from the grace of God more than someone else "with just a little sin." We are ALL dead in sin, but alive in Jesus and we have the assurance that "nothing can separate us from the love of God" (Romans 8:38-39).

So, while it sounds like I'm backing up on my statement that there are no degrees of sin, I am only to a degree (pun intended) . All sins are mortal deserving of wrath, and it's a foolish thing for the dead to compare each other's death in boastful ways.

[MrMasterMind]

Originally Posted by DAII

Then there is the gravest ... not obeying your pastor ... because he's accountable for your soul.

True, rebellion the sin of ole slewfoot himself. And what is a pastor for it not to explain the will of God to you?



I have known more than one pastor who would preach that as the unpardonable.

[Tim Rutledge]

When the Lord turns one over to a reprobate mind.. that would be a different level of sin.

And when he hardened Pharaohs heart... that.. imo.. is a worse level.

All the punishment may be.. I say may be.. the same, but some actions people do or don't do causes the Lord to react more hostile towards. Just like certain crimes/sins we as a society act more hostile towards.

I do appreciate all the good input.