Where do the lost spend eternity? Really! - Page 3

Scott Hutchinson · #21 05-05-2007, 07:41 PM

Well the not sure might have been a person who believes in the destruction of the wicked.

Steve Epley · #22 05-05-2007, 07:58 PM

This is about Timmy wants me to ssend his grandma to Hell then he can spout out all the judgmental unloving bigot I am. I was smarter than that when I was born. Sorry Tim I met folks smarter than you coming back from the headshrinker's office.

I will not fall into your trap.

ILG · #23 05-05-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

This is about Timmy wants me to ssend his grandma to Hell then he can spout out all the judgmental unloving bigot I am. I was smarter than that when I was born. Sorry Tim I met folks smarter than you coming back from the headshrinker's office.

I will not fall into your trap.

He didn't say I was a judgmental, unloving bigot. Nor the others who voted that the lost go to hell.

Margies3 · #24 05-05-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

Actually no, the only way I can logically resolve the Apostolic stuff is by assuming that everyone is going to hell... years of hearing that even if you are saved and then have a sinful thought and God comes back before you repent lead me to this assumption...

I've posted multiple analogies to try to explain how I feel over the last few years on these forums... it is kinda like being at an amusement park where you can spend the entire day standing in line for the new ride which you might not be tall enough to ride, or you can actually go enjoy several of the other rides and miss out on the new one.

I agree completely that the lost will spend eternity in the lake of fire.

I think the area where we will differ is in regards to who exactly is "lost" and what brought about that state of being. Personally, I am not convinced that we are lost because we don't dress Apostolic or because we have a TV in our home or any of those other things that used to bind me. Just as I would not have been saved by dressing Apostolic, refraining from TV, etc.

We are saved by the grace and mercy of God. Period. NOTHING that we do can earn our salvation.

Does that mean that we should consider ourselves saved while still living like the devil would like us to? No, even Paul told us that.

But I'm like Sherri. I'm thankful not to have to live in fear every day of whether I will live good enough to make it in. And because God has been so good to me and purchased my salvation, the least that I can give back to Him is my life. So I choose to live for Him daily. And I look forward expectantly to spending all eternity with Him in Heaven

Steve Epley · #25 05-05-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG

He didn't say I was a judgmental, unloving bigot. Nor the others who voted that the lost go to hell.

ILG the lost here is his grandma I am not going to answer that.

Margies3 · #26 05-05-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

This is about Timmy wants me to ssend his grandma to Hell then he can spout out all the judgmental unloving bigot I am. I was smarter than that when I was born. Sorry Tim I met folks smarter than you coming back from the headshrinker's office.

I will not fall into your trap.

Is this question the result of a private conversation or something? Something that we weren't privy to before this thread???

Timmy · #27 05-05-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

ILG the lost here is his grandma I am not going to answer that.

Aw, man. You're way too smart for me. Should have known you wouldn't answer this question!

Folks, there you have it. Epley will not answer this simple, basic question: What happens to the lost when they die? I mean, isn't this one of the basic tenets of Apostolic doctrine?

In truth, he already has answered it in another thread. He says it's up to God. Turns out He may actually give them a pardon. Don't believe me? See for yourself.

"Timmy he [Bishop Patterson] did die lost he did not obey the gospel that saves BUT it is up to God at the judgment what he does with them not me."

"Going to Hell will be determined at the White Throne being lost is determined NOW whether you obey the gospel or not. Will ALL the lost go to Hell stick around for the White Throne and find out. God will judge that not I."

"EVERYONE is lost who has not obeyed Acts 2:38 God can do with them what he wants at the judgment."

"The judgment will sort them out but I am afraid it will be too late. But He is God and the judge so it is up to HIm if he decides to show mercy He is God. I doubt it happens but He can if he wants."

He was trying to reconcile this statement:

"I have NOT said on this forum or in person that 'so and so' is going to Hell. Not me."

with this:

"Sad he died lost." (Speaking of Bishop Patterson in this thread.)

Did he succeed? Shall I start another poll?