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Old 01-03-2011, 03:08 PM
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You claim baptism saves. So then must we add our work with God's, or is Christ sufficient?
Who commanded baptism? God or man? Did man invent baptism?
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You don't have to receive the promise of the Father and get that there Holy Ghost...after all, neither John Wesley, D.L. Moody or Elvis Presly had it either...so why should you worry your little sweet heart?
How do you know this?
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:28 PM
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Re: Just How Complicated and Convoluted Can We Mak

I'm gone ah go into hiding. I know when a prophet shows up... BYE!
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How do you know this?
I know it because their own testimony bears it out.

They never saw the Son of God, much less believe on His Name.

Incidentally, neither did Pilate, Caiaphas, rulers of the Pharisees who lived at time.
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:32 PM
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I know it because their own testimony bears it out.

They never saw the Son of God, much less believe on His Name.

Incidentally, neither did Pilate, Caiaphas, rulers of the Pharisees who lived at time.
Wait... you are losing me...seeing the Son of God is proof of receiving the Holy Spirit?

How did they not believe on his name?
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:33 PM
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I know it because their own testimony bears it out.

They never saw the Son of God, much less believe on His Name.

Incidentally, neither did Pilate, Caiaphas, rulers of the Pharisees who lived at time.
Wesley, Moody and Elvis didn't live "at [this] time. "
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:40 PM
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Re: Just How Complicated and Convoluted Can We Mak

Forgive me, but the us-4-and-no-more mentality is not right. There are millions os Spirit filled men of God who do not adhere to Jesus name baptism, whose walk is of continual repentance and faith in Christ alone, from numerous denominations around the world.
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Re: Just How Complicated and Convoluted Can We Mak

Apprehended,

You have been away to long. This is what has happened here in the last few years. Its refreshing to see someone take a stand for the gospel.
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Apprehended,

You have been away to long. This is what has happened here in the last few years. Its refreshing to see someone take a stand for the gospel.
Does take a stand = everyone goes to hell that doesn't see things my way?
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I know it because their own testimony bears it out.

They never saw the Son of God, much less believe on His Name.

Incidentally, neither did Pilate, Caiaphas, rulers of the Pharisees who lived at time.

So they themselves claimed they did NOT have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit?
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