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01-10-2011, 01:01 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working
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Saw it and commented on this in another thread ... fascinating ... I thought it was interesting that they even suggested "delaying" certain cultural things in order to keep the new converts.
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Ya, spring it on them when they have their guard down. Or hope that peer pressure will do the job before hard preaching has to.
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01-10-2011, 01:02 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working
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Ya, spring it on them when they have their guard down. Or hope that peer pressure will do the job before hard preaching has to.
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He's advocating the bait and switch.
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01-10-2011, 02:23 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working
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Ya, spring it on them when they have their guard down. Or hope that peer pressure will do the job before hard preaching has to.
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I was always taught that this would lead the women to wear dresses and not cut their hair too.
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Case in point. Peer pressure mistaken for conviction.
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01-10-2011, 02:46 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working
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Case in point. Peer pressure mistaken for conviction.
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Yes...this is the point I was driving at with my comment. We were always told it was the 'Holy Ghost' that would convict a woman to adhere to the standards of 'Apostolic Identity', and if she didn't, it just meant she was lacking and just didn't have enough of the Holy Ghost.
And while I believe that the Holy Ghost is fully capable of convicting a person of their sins and effecting change, I do not believe you can put the 'Apostolic Identity' and 'Sins' on a level playing field and expect the same results.
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01-10-2011, 03:32 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working
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Case in point. Peer pressure mistaken for conviction.
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This is the wiggle room for the pastors to not take a stand, never preach it, say they believe it, tell people THEY have to take a stand, never draw clear lines.....just let the peer pressure do it for them. Seen it many times.
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01-10-2011, 04:11 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working
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This is the wiggle room for the pastors to not take a stand, never preach it, say they believe it, tell people THEY have to take a stand, never draw clear lines.....just let the peer pressure do it for them. Seen it many times.
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So true!
So sad!
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01-10-2011, 04:25 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working
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This is the wiggle room for the pastors to not take a stand, never preach it, say they believe it, tell people THEY have to take a stand, never draw clear lines.....just let the peer pressure do it for them. Seen it many times.
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I have seen this too.
It is sad and much more damamging than the perpetrators really know.
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01-10-2011, 01:00 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working
I am willing to sell the domain for them if they want to do some AI marketing.
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01-12-2011, 03:36 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working
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I am willing to sell the domain for them if they want to do some AI marketing.
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I tried going to www.apostolicidentity.com, and was told I was forbidden! hahahah!
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01-10-2011, 01:01 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working
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I have enough on my hands that’s biblical without having to put my cultural, or even personal, expectations. So, a lot of things I delay.
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things like what ... no beards or facial hair?
How long is the delay on skirts? How long with the live-in boyfriend?
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