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Old 01-10-2011, 01:01 PM
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Re: A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working

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Saw it and commented on this in another thread ... fascinating ... I thought it was interesting that they even suggested "delaying" certain cultural things in order to keep the new converts.
Ya, spring it on them when they have their guard down. Or hope that peer pressure will do the job before hard preaching has to.
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Old 01-10-2011, 01:02 PM
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Ya, spring it on them when they have their guard down. Or hope that peer pressure will do the job before hard preaching has to.
He's advocating the bait and switch.
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Old 01-10-2011, 02:23 PM
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Ya, spring it on them when they have their guard down. Or hope that peer pressure will do the job before hard preaching has to.
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I was always taught that this would lead the women to wear dresses and not cut their hair too.
Case in point. Peer pressure mistaken for conviction.
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Old 01-10-2011, 02:46 PM
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Case in point. Peer pressure mistaken for conviction.
Yes...this is the point I was driving at with my comment. We were always told it was the 'Holy Ghost' that would convict a woman to adhere to the standards of 'Apostolic Identity', and if she didn't, it just meant she was lacking and just didn't have enough of the Holy Ghost.

And while I believe that the Holy Ghost is fully capable of convicting a person of their sins and effecting change, I do not believe you can put the 'Apostolic Identity' and 'Sins' on a level playing field and expect the same results.
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Old 01-10-2011, 03:32 PM
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Case in point. Peer pressure mistaken for conviction.
This is the wiggle room for the pastors to not take a stand, never preach it, say they believe it, tell people THEY have to take a stand, never draw clear lines.....just let the peer pressure do it for them. Seen it many times.
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Old 01-10-2011, 04:11 PM
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This is the wiggle room for the pastors to not take a stand, never preach it, say they believe it, tell people THEY have to take a stand, never draw clear lines.....just let the peer pressure do it for them. Seen it many times.
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So sad!
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Old 01-10-2011, 04:25 PM
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This is the wiggle room for the pastors to not take a stand, never preach it, say they believe it, tell people THEY have to take a stand, never draw clear lines.....just let the peer pressure do it for them. Seen it many times.
I have seen this too.

It is sad and much more damamging than the perpetrators really know.
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Old 01-10-2011, 01:00 PM
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I am willing to sell the domain for them if they want to do some AI marketing.
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I am willing to sell the domain for them if they want to do some AI marketing.
I tried going to www.apostolicidentity.com, and was told I was forbidden! hahahah!
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Old 01-10-2011, 01:01 PM
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I have enough on my hands that’s biblical without having to put my cultural, or even personal, expectations. So, a lot of things I delay.
things like what ... no beards or facial hair?

How long is the delay on skirts? How long with the live-in boyfriend?
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