A Crumbling UPC 'Fesses Up, AI is not working - Page 3

ILG · #21 01-10-2011, 01:29 PM

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It doesn't seem any different than ever before. The main question is, What is biblical? Adultery? Fornication? Hair? Jewelry?

Ultimately, they will refuse to define what is biblically mandated. There is the problem.

Digging4Truth · #22 01-10-2011, 01:30 PM

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Ultimately, they will refuse to define what is biblically mandated. There is the problem.

Indeed. When one cannot display something is biblical and yet cannot afford to admit otherwise then silence is the remaining choice.

Chateau d'If · #23 01-10-2011, 01:31 PM

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Ultimately, they will refuse to define what is biblically mandated. There is the problem.

DAII is right. It is bait and switch.

Hoovie · #24 01-10-2011, 01:31 PM

I don't think it's any secret at all that most foreign works have always been very lax on what we understand as westernized standards.

houston · #25 01-10-2011, 01:43 PM

Ahh... don't have to affirm the affirmation... I just may get a license and ...do nothing with it.

ILG · #26 01-10-2011, 01:50 PM

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Indeed. When one cannot display something is biblical and yet cannot afford to admit otherwise then silence is the remaining choice.

There is much silence.......and simple frowning disapproval and confusion and chaos.

Aquila · #27 01-10-2011, 01:51 PM

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His example of a cultural thing being the live-in boyfriend was a poor choice ... and it's going to sting him.

I think it will sting him too.

However, I don't think a one size fits all. Many couples that live together have been together for many years. Some are divorcees that have children. To advocate that they dissolve their relationship immediately would be problematic and traumatic for all involved. I'd advocate just preaching the Word. God's GRACE is sufficient to keep them saved. Eventually the Word will do the work and convict them to marry.

I don't believe God demands perfection. I do believe that grace is provided for the sinner. It's the imputation of Christ's righteousness to the sinful and undeserving. Their salvation isn't based on performance...but position... and if saved... their position is "in Christ".

Should they serve in some form of ministry? I wouldn't recomend it until they were married.

Chateau d'If · #28 01-10-2011, 01:52 PM

Think of all the innocent souls that have been damaged for...nothing.

Think of all of the disillusioned pastors.

Think of all that blood on somebody's hands.

All because of religious pride.

Chateau d'If · #29 01-10-2011, 01:58 PM

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Think of all the innocent souls that have been damaged for...nothing.

Think of all of the disillusioned pastors.

Think of all that blood on somebody's hands.

All because of religious pride.

Pastors, forced to teach AI, driving away UPC new converts by the hundreds and thousands, now being told they could have delayed teaching it, or ignored it altogether.

Hoovie · #30 01-10-2011, 01:58 PM

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Think of all the innocent souls that have been damaged for...nothing.

Think of all of the disillusioned pastors.

Think of all that blood on somebody's hands.

All because of religious pride.

Ya lost me there... this is in reference to asking shack ups to separate or get married? or...