The Rev Dr Strange says AFF ees Hairy Tics! - Page 10

Jason B · #91 01-17-2011, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76

This is why I wish both sides would tone down the rhetoric about standards.
Both sides like to jump up and down about their "freedom" or their "holiness" and both sides are wrong, in my opinion.
The reason that I brought up the dress issue was not because I believe that it is immoral for a woman to wear pants.
It was to show that "standards", that are not specifically addressed in the Bible, change with time and culture.
So, what the argument is really about, is where we are at on the timeline or the culture.Also, been in a lot of conservative churches and never have heard that wearing a beard was a sin. I am sure there are some that do believe this, but not the preachers that I have heard.
Most of them would say that there was more Bible for a beard than against it. However, the beard referred to in the Bible was not trimmed.
Now, they would ask saints to be clean shaven, but did not preach that it was a sin.

the movement is about 40 years in the past and fading quickly

RandyWayne · #92 01-17-2011, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Kid

Have you guys ever heard of a marriage being broken up because of standards and a death grip allegience to the church? Trust me it is happening to my very best friend...he loves God with all his heart and was torn to shreads by the UPC among discovering the true effect of grace and extrabiblical cultural beliefs. His wife has this cultish attachment to the church and would allow her marriage to be blown up as long as her relationship with the church remains intact. I am astounded just sitting listening to the poor fella. ...bless God

I have seen and heard about such circumstances far too often.

Jason B · #93 01-17-2011, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Again, I guess I have been blessed in where I have attended.
Let me ask you this, would recreational use of drugs be against scripture?
Not enough to be addicted, just some "light" use.
Please give me scripture to support your belief.

LOL, I was actually asked this question while preaching in the county jail yesterday. I didn't have to go long before the inmates were turning to the fellow talking about "your just looking for an excuse to justify your sin" it was pretty neat.

The guy who asked the question says his mom goes to "the church of 420" in California. It was an intersting day to say the least.

Irreligious · #94 01-17-2011, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76

This is why I wish both sides would tone down the rhetoric about standards.
Both sides like to jump up and down about their "freedom" or their "holiness" and both sides are wrong, in my opinion.
The reason that I brought up the dress issue was not because I believe that it is immoral for a woman to wear pants.
It was to show that "standards", that are not specifically addressed in the Bible, change with time and culture.
So, what the argument is really about, is where we are at on the timeline or the culture.
Also, been in a lot of conservative churches and never have heard that wearing a beard was a sin. I am sure there are some that do believe this, but not the preachers that I have heard.
Most of them would say that there was more Bible for a beard than against it. However, the beard referred to in the Bible was not trimmed.
Now, they would ask saints to be clean shaven, but did not preach that it was a sin.

The rhetoric about "standards" doesn't need to be "Toned Down", it needs to be HUSHED. It's a bunch of complete idiocy putting weights on people they are not able to bear.

Carpenter · #95 01-17-2011, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I have seen and heard about such circumstances far too often.

He gave me this quote the other day from the pastor over the pulpit, "If that old grizzly at home decides he doesn't want to line up and be part of the body of Christ, this church will be your husband." I almost fell out of my chair.

Truthseeker · #96 01-17-2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Kid

He gave me this quote the other day from the pastor over the pulpit, "If that old grizzly at home decides he doesn't want to line up and be part of the body of Christ, this church will be your husband." I almost fell out of my chair.

The church probably wouldn't give a dime to take the place of a working husband.

RandyWayne · #97 01-17-2011, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Kid

He gave me this quote the other day from the pastor over the pulpit, "If that old grizzly at home decides he doesn't want to line up and be part of the body of Christ, this church will be your husband." I almost fell out of my chair.

I am sure the pastor who said that said it with more then one meaning (based on how attractive she is of course). That IS the ultimate end game to control freaks -sexual conquests, even though it is usually not their intention in the beginning.

aegsm76 · #98 01-17-2011, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianmidwest

The scripture speaks directly to anything that brings your mind into an altered state.

Galatians 5:19-21 says, "Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

I would also cite the admonition from Proverbs "For if they drink, they may forget the law," (Proverbs 31:5 NLT)

And

"Who has anguish? Who has sorrow? Who is always fighting? Who is always complaining? Who has unnecessary bruises? Who has bloodshot eyes? It is the one who spends long hours in taverns, trying out new drinks," (Proverbs 23:29-30)

Additionally, I would point out the medical research to proves the addictive nature of drugs. Whether the drug is legal or not, if it is taken to change alter one's senses as a recreational activity, it is wrong.

So, any drinking of alcoholic beverages is a sin?

rgcraig · #99 01-18-2011, 08:59 AM

I guess if Bro. Strange feels the need to complain on AMF about AFF he has that right.

CC1 · #**100** 01-18-2011, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I guess if Bro. Strange feels the need to complain on AMF about AFF he has that right.

At his age he has earned the right to do just about anything that is not sin!

Besides I complain about things on AFF also. Just not on other forums. I think my disappointment with the forum the last couple of years is well known.