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01-19-2011, 02:54 AM
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Is this a "Putrid Attitude"
"Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, his inauguration day, according to The Birmingham News.
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01-19-2011, 05:04 AM
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Re: Is this a "Putrid Attitude"
I saw this, not real sure how to take it.
I don't believe he is wrong to feel this way, but I'm not sure it is a stance to be projected into his position.
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01-19-2011, 06:10 AM
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Re: Is this a "Putrid Attitude"
To me, that is a horrible thing to say, especially for a public official. How is he supposed to relate or represent constituents that do not hold his beliefs, or are not his "brothers", and how are they supposed to have any faith in his ability to do so?
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01-19-2011, 07:29 AM
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Re: Is this a "Putrid Attitude"
I think it's more of an asinine attitude........
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01-19-2011, 08:05 AM
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Re: Is this a "Putrid Attitude"
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
"Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, his inauguration day, according to The Birmingham News.
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Good statement. Nothing putrid about it IMHO. He was at a church. He said you aren't my brother but he also wants you to be his brother. He also said that he wants to help everyone have a better life in Alabama--where he is governor. Not only Christians, aka. his brothers and sisters. He did not say this negative in the context of pessimism and hate speech but a statement of fact to very likely to be shared by other believers around him. The ADL and Islam thinks this is a putrid attitude but good Christians should not.
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01-19-2011, 08:20 AM
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Re: Is this a "Putrid Attitude"
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Good statement. Nothing putrid about it IMHO. He was at a church. He said you aren't my brother but he also wants you to be his brother. He also said that he wants to help everyone have a better life in Alabama--where he is governor. Not only Christians, aka. his brothers and sisters. He did not say this negative in the context of pessimism and hate speech but a statement of fact to very likely to be shared by other believers around him. The ADL and Islam thinks this is a putrid attitude but good Christians should not.
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I don't know about "putrid" but I think it was a dumb statement from any perspective.
First of all, you have to repent, be baptized in water by immersion in the name of Jesus Christ and then be filled with the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking in other tongues to be anyone's "brother or sister in Christ." This guy wasn't speaking with "other believers around him." He was talking in front of a bunch of Baptists!
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01-19-2011, 08:21 AM
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Alabama Governor Only Christians Are My Brothers
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_alabam...nor_christians
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. – Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley told a church crowd just moments into his new administration that those who have not accepted Jesus as their savior are not his brothers and sisters, shocking some critics who questioned Tuesday whether he can be fair to non-Christians.
"Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, his inauguration day, according to The Birmingham News.
The Anti-Defamation League on Tuesday called Bentley's remarks shocking.
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01-19-2011, 08:27 AM
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Re: Is this a "Putrid Attitude"
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I don't know about "putrid" but I think it was a dumb statement from any perspective.
First of all, you have to repent, be baptized in water by immersion in the name of Jesus Christ and then be filled with the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking in other tongues to be anyone's "brother or sister in Christ." This guy wasn't speaking with "other believers around him." He was talking in front of a bunch of Baptists!
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Pel, you are welcome to play spin. Right along with Islam and the ADL. As DA might say, "good company".  Now, since you assumed a fallacy to birth this nonsense let me also explain. God can certainly use a baptist or a methodist or a presbyterian etc. Even among "Christendom" popular there is lots of room for debate. You can harp on our distinctions until Christ returns if you like though.
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01-19-2011, 08:28 AM
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Re: Is this a "Putrid Attitude"
No, it was not. It's what he believes as a Christian. It's just not politically correct.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-19-2011, 08:36 AM
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Re: Is this a "Putrid Attitude"
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Originally Posted by JN Anderson
Pel, you are welcome to play spin. Right along with Islam and the ADL. As DA might say, "good company".  Now, since you assumed a fallacy to birth this nonsense let me also explain. God can certainly use a baptist or a methodist or a presbyterian etc. Even among "Christendom" popular there is lots of room for debate. You can harp on our distinctions until Christ returns if you like though. 
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It is the governor's statement that needs "spin." The fact of the matter is, he is an elected official in a state that is a part of a Federal union which is and always has been expressly SECULAR in nature.
I'm certain that if we allowed them free reign, the Baptists of Alabama would happily marginalize "heretical" believers such as yourself as quickly as you have dissed the ADL and their ilk.
I challenge you - approach this man, Gov. Bentley, and invite him to participate in or to attend one of your debates. Be clear about your position and beliefs. Then, I am fairly certain, you will see the wisdom in a SECULAR form of government.
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