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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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Now where do we see them receive it later?
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Acts 2
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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01-22-2011, 02:03 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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Yet, John was filled with the Holy Ghost from birth, or even before so. Seems every time one wants to put God in a box He just pops right out!! LOL So, He was given earlier.
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There were many people filled with the Holy Spirit before Pentecost but the gift was not for everyone until Pentecost in Acts 2 per the prophecy of Joel.
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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There were many people filled with the Holy Spirit before Pentecost but the gift was not for everyone until Pentecost in Acts 2 per the prophecy of Joel. |
So what you're saying is, people have been filled with the Holy Spirit without speaking in tongues, correct?
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01-22-2011, 02:44 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
Was John filled with the Holy Ghost?? Let's hear John's testimony himself
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Matthew 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
John clearly states that he (John) needed to baptized with the Holy Ghost and fire by Jesus. Obviously, the Spirit of the LORD was upon John the baptists like as in all the other prophets, but the Holy Spirit did not indwell them. We are the living temples made without hands in whom the Spirit resides in.
Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: (not exactly in context)
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01-22-2011, 02:46 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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So what you're saying is, people have been filled with the Holy Spirit without speaking in tongues, correct?
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Yes, but they prophesied. So there was a visible recognizable sign...evidence of the indwelling Spirit!
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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01-22-2011, 02:48 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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Was John filled with the Holy Ghost?? Let's hear John's testimony himself
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Matthew 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
John clearly states that he (John) needed to baptized with the Holy Ghost and fire by Jesus. Obviously, the Spirit of the LORD was upon John the baptists like as in all the other prophets, but the Holy Spirit did not indwell them. We are the living temples made without hands in whom the Spirit resides in.
Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: (not exactly in context) |
That could mean there was a distinction in function between the OT prophets having the Spirit of prophecy and the NT Spirit baptism
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-22-2011, 02:49 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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Was John filled with the Holy Ghost?? Let's hear John's testimony himself
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Matthew 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
John clearly states that he (John) needed to baptized with the Holy Ghost and fire by Jesus. Obviously, the Spirit of the LORD was upon John the baptists like as in all the other prophets, but the Holy Spirit did not indwell them. We are the living temples made without hands in whom the Spirit resides in.
Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: (not exactly in context) |
How do you know that John B was speaking of Spirit baptism? why not water baptisM?
What about this verse: For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb. How do you harmonize this verse with the others?
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. Luke 4:1-2 KJV
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01-22-2011, 03:02 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Yes, but they prophesied. So there was a visible recognizable sign...evidence of the indwelling Spirit!
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So, must a sign be a gift? Or would fruits also be a sign?
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01-22-2011, 03:26 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
How do you know that John B was speaking of Spirit baptism? why not water baptisM?
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Matt 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire
He was telling his audience that he (John) baptizes with water but the one to come after him will baptize with the HolyGhost. What then could John be asking Jesus to baptize him with? If Jesus was gonna baptize others with the Holy Ghost and fire, why would John not want the same thing?
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
What about this verse: For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb. How do you harmonize this verse with the others?
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I do not deny that Spirit of the LORD was upon John. I'm just saying that he was not indwelt like we believers are. The work of the cross had not been done. Jesus was not yet glorified
John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
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