Are we Apostolic, per our own rules? - Page 5

Socialite · #41 01-25-2011, 03:52 PM

I've definitely had good days, better days and some ugly days on the ol' forum.

It's not face-to-face, personalities are hard to gauge, defensiveness can be quite high, and lots of hubris mix together for quite a soiree of choppy waters.

OneAccord · #42 01-25-2011, 04:11 PM

Well, I can't say whether WE are Apostolic or not. I can say I am, though there are those who would say I am not. But, for want of a better term, I am Apostolic.

I have no beef with trinitarians. Most of them, a great majority of them I'd say, are honest, God fearing Christians who love the Lord as much, or maybve more than I do. They are not my enemies. They are my brothers and sisters in the Lord. I say that because they meet the criteria the Bible gives for being Christians. They believe in God, they believe in His Word, they believe in the death burial and resurrection of the Lord. Pentecostals trinitarians believe in, and have received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and, though their "standards" may not be what some think they should be, by and large, they live clean and holy lives. They interpret the Godhead differently. They baptrize differently. That makes them my enemy??? Absolutely not. They are my brothers and sisters in the Lord for they have been baptized with the same Holy Ghost that baptized us into His Body. I will always consider them a part of God's family, until the day they reject Christ as the Savior of the world. And I don't see that happening anytime soon.

But, like a good Apostolic I'll add this footnote: Once truth, whatever that truth may be, is revealed, once deeper truth is revealed, they, like you and I, will be held responsible for what is done with that truth. Let me repeat... That goes for me as well. Once God reveals to me deeper truth, I will be held responsible for what I do with that truth.

See, whether we want to admit it or not, the Godhead is a mystery that can only be revealed to us by the Holy Spirit. Even then, I don't know if we can comprehend the truth enough to explain it. I've heard trinitarians make a mess of it trying to explain it. I've heard Oneness folk make an even bigger mess of it. Its a truth that doesn't come by explanation. You can teach at it, but you can't teach it. You can't learn it- it comes only though revelation of the Holy Ghost. Until the Spirit reveals it, we ae left scratching our heads. Paul said it is a mystery. A mystery that only be "spiritually discerned".

notofworks · #43 01-25-2011, 05:21 PM

No thanks, I refuse all non-biblical labels including the term, "Apostolic."

Praxeas · #44 01-25-2011, 05:22 PM

ESV Gal 2:8 (for he who worked through Peter for his apostolic ministry to the circumcised worked also through me for mine to the Gentiles),

*AQuietPlace* · #45 01-25-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I do not want to exclude anyone with the exception of those who teach the Bible is corrupt and uninspired. I do feel they have no place at the table because they are destroying faith in the word of God.

My problem is that IT SEEMS that for so time now Oneness doctrine has been mocked and ridiculed here. Very few seem to take the doctrine seriously anymore.

I don't recall seeing Oneness mocked and ridiculed. Debated, yes, but not mocked.

Hoovie · #46 01-25-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII

I believe it is evidence ... not necessarily initial evidence for all.

I certainly believe it IS the initial evidence for many Pentecostals - including Oneness Pentecostals.

Now if someone will ask if the Holy Spirit can be manifest in those who have not spoken in tongues the answer is yes.

Socialite · #47 01-25-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

No thanks, I refuse all non-biblical labels including the term, "Apostolic."

Didn't realize "Apostolic" was unbiblical, wise guy!

notofworks · #48 01-25-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Didn't realize "Apostolic" was unbiblical, wise guy!

It's not in the King James Version so it's not in the bible.

notofworks · #49 01-25-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

ESV Gal 2:8 (for he who worked through Peter for his apostolic ministry to the circumcised worked also through me for mine to the Gentiles),

Nope, gotta stick with the KJV. It was good for Paul & Silas, it's good enough for me.

BeenThinkin · #50 01-25-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Nope, gotta stick with the KJV. It was good for Paul & Silas, it's good enough for me.

Besides that Jesus didn't use any other version than the King James, and he sang out of the Hymnals, too! If you don't believe that just ask me!

Edited: lol, J/k, TIC, etc.... just in case some of the sore-tails thought I was serious!!!!!
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