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01-27-2011, 03:32 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
Who knows our hearts? God alone. Some may think that they know others hearts, but scripture refutes that. It also warns against judging others.
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01-27-2011, 03:32 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
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Originally Posted by Pastor Keith
If so then use their material. (By the way this is not an endorsement of a lesser salvation) 
But if the Goodman's didn't experience your view of Salvation, then please stop using their music.
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01-27-2011, 03:43 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
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Originally Posted by Pastor Keith
If so then use their material. (By the way this is not an endorsement of a lesser salvation)
But if the Goodman's didn't experience your view of Salvation, then please stop using their music.
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01-27-2011, 04:01 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
Yes, they are saved. I saved some of the albums, cassettes, videos, DVD's and CDs, and I might even have an 8-track tape of them. So, yes, they are definitely saved.
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01-27-2011, 04:21 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
I went to church with Vestel the last couple of years before she died unexpectedly. She and Howard are buried in the Christ Church Nasvhille cemetary.
The funny thing is I really didn't like Southern Gospel music when I was a young man and into music but after she died I was watching a Gaither video honoring the Goodman's music and found myself extremely blessed and moved by the powerful songs they sang.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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01-27-2011, 04:33 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
The Rambos were for a while. Until she cut her hair and stuff. So I guess it's okay to sing the songs she wrote pre-haircut. Someone will need to find a timeline of the songs she wrote, and pinpoint when she cut her hair and we'll be good to go.
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01-27-2011, 04:38 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
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the rambos were for a while. Until she cut her hair and stuff. So i guess it's okay to sing the songs she wrote pre-haircut. Someone will need to find a timeline of the songs she wrote, and pinpoint when she cut her hair and we'll be good to go.
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roflmbo!!!!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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01-27-2011, 04:49 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
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Originally Posted by Pastor Keith
If so then use their material. (By the way this is not an endorsement of a lesser salvation)
But if the Goodman's didn't experience your view of Salvation, then please stop using their music.
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IMHO this is flawed logic. The scriptures teach us "let everything that has breath, praise ye the Lord." So.......if someone writes a song of praise or thanksgiving to God (which does not mean that they are/are not saved) and that song speaks to my heart or puts words to my hearts feelings, and subsequently I worship God via/because of the song, the author's salvational status is of little consequence.
The same thing relates to gleaning material from someone that helps me to communicate the Word of God to those I am preaching to. To follow your logic to its conclusion would mean that if I read/hear/see a story. principle, or life lesson that is not authored by a saved person I can't use it or even acknowledge its veracity because a "sinner" wrote it, said it, or experienced it.
To put it plainly, I gather material from many different genres whether it be news sources, biographies, or even fictional stories that may present a truth or principle etc and whether or not the author was/is saved does not matter.
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01-27-2011, 07:22 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
There was an older minister in the town where I grew up who loved the Rambo's music. When Dottie cut her hair and "painted up" he still loved their music, but couldn't stand to look at them in that condition. So he would buy their albums every time a new one came out, but before he carried it into the house he'd take it out to the garage and spray paint the album cover...lol. Then I guess he could listen to them and be blessed, cause he couldn't see how lost they were!
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01-27-2011, 07:27 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Will
There was an older minister in the town where I grew up who loved the Rambo's music. When Dottie cut her hair and "painted up" he still loved their music, but couldn't stand to look at them in that condition. So he would buy their albums every time a new one came out, but before he carried it into the house he'd take it out to the garage and spray paint the album cover...lol. Then I guess he could listen to them and be blessed, cause he couldn't see how lost they were!
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