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02-01-2011, 10:17 PM
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Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego
FC is as phony as they come......
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02-01-2011, 10:21 PM
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Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego
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Evangelist Freddy Clark has been working in the ministry for nearly half a century. He has traveled constantly in crusades and concerts for 47 years.
Brother Clark has a unique gift from God. The people he prays for have testified to genuine miracles and healings in the mighty name of Jesus.
The Clark family, based in Rocky Mount Virginia is widely known for conducting revival crusades and musical concerts featuring bluegrass and country style gospel music.
Freddy and Sylvia Clark were blessed with eleven children including two sets of twins, twin boys and twin girls. Freddy and Sylvia were married on June 7 1973.
Sylvia is a woman of "presence" in word and deed and in song and appearance. She is also the mother of eleven children with amazing patience to do the job.
The children sing and are gifted in musicianship. They have grown up traveling and working with their parents. Their ages range from thirty-four to twelve-years-old. Their names in order are: Alan, Aaron, Adam, Ashley, Andrew, Austin, Alexander, Abraham, Avery, Aimee and Amber. After nine consecutive boys, the Clarks received the heavenly promise of twin girls.
All the children can sing in vocal harmonies and solo as well as play several instruments including rhythm guitar, harmonica, acoustic bass, electric bass, mandolin, mondola, lead guitar, fiddle, Banjo, drums, and dobro.
Freddy, who plays twenty instruments, gave the children lessons. "God imparted musical gifts to my children," Clark said.
All or part of this thirteen-member family can be seen and heard in personal appearances in some part of the Nation. It is truly a moving experience to see this group perform and minister to people in the Spirit.
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Oh good Lord......
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02-01-2011, 10:22 PM
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Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego
The only time I ever want to see a large family where every kids name starts with the same letter is if the parents decided to make it challenging, like choosing the letter X.
Once your past Xavier and Xenia you probably have to dive straight into the realm of sci-fi (not that Xavier and Xenia don't qualify for that as well).
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02-01-2011, 10:23 PM
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Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego
Sermon was interesting but the healing service is painful. I need healing from it. The joking schtick is something else.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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02-01-2011, 11:21 PM
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Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego
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FC is as phony as they come......
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"Phony," my foot. He personally prayed for me about three extremely specific things I told no one about and had been praying for in private. He nailed them on the button in detail! And the prayers he made were answered and I can attest to his genuine moving in the Spirit.
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02-02-2011, 12:39 AM
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Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego
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Freddy Clark is live now at:
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That must be why they are preaching at Larsons. I reported recently they were to preach at a nearby church..I have my opinions but I'll reserve them for now..
Oh wait...I thought the title hear said Freddy Clark LIVES at San Diego...ok yeah. Well I don't know why he went there but there isn't much to hear.
I heard him at Thads church. All he did was walk around and pull fat people out of the congregation and say "You have back problems , is that right?"
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-02-2011, 12:49 AM
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Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego
Ok look. There are certain "gimicks" that these kinds of people do or use. I was at a meeting once where a well known UPC "prophet" was warming the folks up for the gifts to operate.
So he goes over the congregation and zooms in on this one woman. He looks at her and says "You have borderline anemia"...now he could have been wrong...what is borderline anemia? Anyways, this woman had anemia and you could tell by looking at her face. Dark circles under the eyes, face a little pale.
So too at this event Freddie Clark was doing, he picks out some obese folks and declares God told him they had back problems...I was like, what fat person doesn't?!?!
But I've seen this sort of things many times before. No disrespect brother Mike but I don't know what went on with your situation but I feel like some others do when I am in one of these "services"..that there are tricks of the trade these men use. In fact the next service he allowed his son to work over the crowd. It seemed like he was trained to do exactly what his dad did.
In fact it reminded me of the cold readings psychics do...Put hand to forehead. Point to a generalized area and say something like "Is there a...I want to say it starts with an R? A ray over here or maybe someone has a family member that is named Ray? or...oh wait there is a hand. Yes? Ok you have a brother named Ray? And he is in jail now? Ok good"
Im serious. I don't know if they just get lucky sometimes or perhaps they are used in the gifts but hearing from God once about one person in the entire congregation makes for dull healing meetings so they have to fill in the blanks or what...
But I have gone to plenty of these with faith and an open mind and left disappointed at what I saw
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-02-2011, 02:15 AM
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Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego
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Originally Posted by Raven
Evangelist Freddy Clark has been working in the ministry for nearly half a century. He has traveled constantly in crusades and concerts for 47 years.
Brother Clark has a unique gift from God. The people he prays for have testified to genuine miracles and healings in the mighty name of Jesus.
The Clark family, based in Rocky Mount Virginia is widely known for conducting revival crusades and musical concerts featuring bluegrass and country style gospel music.
Freddy and Sylvia Clark were blessed with eleven children including two sets of twins, twin boys and twin girls. Freddy and Sylvia were married on June 7 1973.
Sylvia is a woman of "presence" in word and deed and in song and appearance. She is also the mother of eleven children with amazing patience to do the job.
The children sing and are gifted in musicianship. They have grown up traveling and working with their parents. Their ages range from thirty-four to twelve-years-old. Their names in order are: Alan, Aaron, Adam, Ashley, Andrew, Austin, Alexander, Abraham, Avery, Aimee and Amber. After nine consecutive boys, the Clarks received the heavenly promise of twin girls.
All the children can sing in vocal harmonies and solo as well as play several instruments including rhythm guitar, harmonica, acoustic bass, electric bass, mandolin, mondola, lead guitar, fiddle, Banjo, drums, and dobro.
Freddy, who plays twenty instruments, gave the children lessons. "God imparted musical gifts to my children," Clark said.
All or part of this thirteen-member family can be seen and heard in personal appearances in some part of the Nation. It is truly a moving experience to see this group perform and minister to people in the Spirit.
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In addittion 3 of the boys Adam,Ashley,Austin won a tv contest called Next Great American Band against 10,000 other bands calling themselves Sons of Sylvia and just finished touring with Carrie Underwood ,a close friend,for a year.Kind of a pop,country thing.
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02-02-2011, 02:52 AM
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Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego
They are actually pretty good, for bluegrass
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-02-2011, 08:00 AM
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Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Ok look. There are certain "gimicks" that these kinds of people do or use. I was at a meeting once where a well known UPC "prophet" was warming the folks up for the gifts to operate.
So he goes over the congregation and zooms in on this one woman. He looks at her and says "You have borderline anemia"...now he could have been wrong...what is borderline anemia? Anyways, this woman had anemia and you could tell by looking at her face. Dark circles under the eyes, face a little pale.
So too at this event Freddie Clark was doing, he picks out some obese folks and declares God told him they had back problems...I was like, what fat person doesn't?!?!
But I've seen this sort of things many times before. No disrespect brother Mike but I don't know what went on with your situation but I feel like some others do when I am in one of these "services"..that there are tricks of the trade these men use. In fact the next service he allowed his son to work over the crowd. It seemed like he was trained to do exactly what his dad did.
In fact it reminded me of the cold readings psychics do...Put hand to forehead. Point to a generalized area and say something like "Is there a...I want to say it starts with an R? A ray over here or maybe someone has a family member that is named Ray? or...oh wait there is a hand. Yes? Ok you have a brother named Ray? And he is in jail now? Ok good"
Im serious. I don't know if they just get lucky sometimes or perhaps they are used in the gifts but hearing from God once about one person in the entire congregation makes for dull healing meetings so they have to fill in the blanks or what...
But I have gone to plenty of these with faith and an open mind and left disappointed at what I saw
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Great post. I have no doubt that some people do get healed at a BH or FC type meeting but it is due to their faith. I don't know FC but over the years my opinon is that many of these "faith healers" and people who go around with a "word of knowledge" start out sincere and genuine but over time things change. They either become cynical or there is such a pressure to perform that they start using the methods you outlined in your post.
If a church / pastor promotes a healing service and pays for a man to come do it he is under pressure to deliver. Over time that probably affects many of them in how they approach things. These type services really do remind me of gypsy's "psychic" services.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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