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Old 02-10-2011, 09:40 PM
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Re: 4given@Repentance If You're Still Goin 2 Hell?

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley View Post
Repentance alone is as useless as baptism alone. Neither saves without the other. Jesus NOT OP's said 'water & the Spirit' Jn.3:5. What shall we do? The ONLY man with the keys gave the answer Acts 2:38. The door of Heaven was opened by those keys. LOCKED without the keys.
You don't have to obey Acts 2:38 you can always go to Hell.
Jesus did say, "water and Spirit" when he told Nicodemus that he had to be "born again." Nicodemus questioned this when he asked how he could enter his mother's womb and be "born again."

Nicodemus had already been born one time. Jesus said he had to be born another time. There are Two Births under discussion here. The first birth and the second birth. The water and the Spirit. There is nothing in John 3 that would lead us to think Jesus was discussing water baptism. Your "Water & Spirit" doctrine conflates the Two Births under discussion in John 3. It throws out the first birth that Nicodemus had raised and conflates the Two Births together, thus rendering the term "born again" meaningless. This was a teaching that G.T. Haywood said God had "revealed" to him over a period of time beginning in about 1915 - 1916.

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