THIS is True Love!!!

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

I listen to a lot of you pretend-Apostolics talk about grace and love and forgiveness and acceptance and all kinds of touchy-gooey stuff that you think is love. But accepting someone as they are and never demanding repentance, never telling them the truth of their condition IS NOT LOVE!!!

So I just want to tell all of you that:


...have not obeyed Acts 2:38,

...that do not teach it as the ONLY way to salvation,

...who don't demand that trinitarians be re-baptized,

...you men that think it's ok to grow your hair long and wear shorts,

...you women who cut your hair, wear makeup, and wear pants,

...who have not embraced the Oneness of God,


I love all of you SO much that I must tell you, if any of that list described you, you will burn in a devil's hell for all eternity. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth and you will be one of them!! You won't care about your makeup and jewelry and shorts then!! Jesus will not trip through the aisles of a dark movie theatre to include you in the rapture!!!!

Now THAT is true love!!!

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

Nice try at twisting my words, my friend. I didn't claim that believing in the oneness of God saves us. Sorry, that kind of twisting is what gets so many in trouble with reading the bible.

Ok, I found the quote, and because you're accusing me of twisting your words, here they are in full context with the part bolded that I have questions about.

What did you mean when you said "So I just want to tell all of you that: ...who have not embraced the Oneness of God, if any of that list described you, you will burn in a devil's hell for all eternity."?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

I know that I have heard her son, Bro. Kenneth Haney, proclaim that Acts 2:38 is the only way to salvation and I know his son has even more boldly proclaimed the truth of separation and Godliness even more boldly! How about if we talk to Olive Haney's grandson, let's see what HE believes!

According to the By-Laws of his own church, if he states that salvation occurs at any point other than true repentance then he must step aside from his position. That's the By-Law written by his grandfather and endorsed by his father. Presumably, NH also believes that or he would not have accepted his position.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Ok, I found the quote, and because you're accusing me of twisting your words, here they are in full context with the part bolded that I have questions about.

What did you mean when you said "So I just want to tell all of you that: ...who have not embraced the Oneness of God, if any of that list described you, you will burn in a devil's hell for all eternity."?

Opie Deuce is just ranting from his gut. His brain isn't engaged in this. Maybe his wife failed to put enough grease in his gravy this evening. Dunno. The guy's just not "there" mentally.

Even his "Amen Corner" has abandoned him.

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I used to work for Nathaniel Urshan. I know exactly what he preached. However, I said "AD Urshan" - the man who was responsible for the development of the modern day Oneness Doctrine.

You see, I actually knew some of these folks and their family members. Sister Haney never "renounced" the wearing of a modest string of pearls though she did conform to some of the extreme things that the radicals like Ike Terry brought out west with them.

But, guys like Terry also brought hate, exclusivism, and just plain bad doctrine. Now... Where was YOUR doctrine before 1937? Did your doctrine save ANYONE before 1937?

I'm glad you worked for him but I know what he preached and I think you do too, especially if you worked for him as you say. And Sis. Haney did all the renouncing she needed to do when she went the last 50 years of her life without wearing any of that junk.

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by pelathais

According to the By-Laws of his own church, if he states that salvation occurs at any point other than true repentance then he must step aside from his position. That's the By-Law written by his grandfather and endorsed by his father. Presumably, NH also believes that or he would not have accepted his position.

There isn't a chance in this world that Bro. N. Haney believes in salvation at repentance! I'm not nearly as concerned with what their bylaws say as am I about what the bible says and what they teach from their pulpit and I know they preach Acts 2:38!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

So much love it almost brought a tear to my eye.

lol

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Oh, brother, I thought you were gone for good! I was hoping, but no, you have to come back here and taunt everyone with your super, holy, arrogant attitude!

and you thought I was bad!

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

There isn't a chance in this world that Bro. N. Haney believes in salvation at repentance! I'm not nearly as concerned with what their bylaws say as am I about what the bible says and what they teach from their pulpit and I know they preach Acts 2:38!

As bad as I hate to admit it, I can't imagine Than ever allowing salvation by grace being espoused in his hallowed pulpit. And that pulpit is HUGE!!!!!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

\ And Sis. Haney eventually understood that she shouldn't be wearing makeup and jewelry!

How do you know that?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

You think that's funny, don't you? Someday it won't be funny one bit! I looked up some of your posts, my friend, and I see that you don't believe in Noah and The Ark. Get right with God, brother!!!

A local boy kicked me in the butt last week
I just smiled at him and I turned the other cheek
I really don't care, in fact I wish him well
'Cause I'll be laughing my head off when he's burning in hell

Weird Al singing Amish Paradise

Pretty accurate except for the "wish him well" part. You would be content to laugh at him even BEFORE he is burning in hell, all the while showing a whole tanker full of false piety.