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Old 05-08-2007, 03:17 AM
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Father is not a proper name, it is a title. If you call your father "dad," does that mean "dad" is his name? Obviously not! So also "Father" is not a name of God but, instead, a title. As for the Greek word for name (onoma), very often in the New Testament it refers to authority and not to an appellation.
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Chan please prove this claim of yours from the Bible; where does Scripture tell us that Father isn't a proper name? Consider Luke 11:2;

‘Our Father which art in heaven hallowed be thy name.’ Luke 11:2.

In the Lord’s prayer we are told to address God by his own name, because Christianity unlike all other world religions, has a personal God who we come to know personally when we are saved. This familiarity is expressed by our usage of God's own name in prayer, which is why Jesus here teaches us to specifically use God's name. In which case if the name of the Father were indeed “Jesus,” why then wouldn’t the Son tell us to pray; “Jesus who art in heaven hallowed be thy name.”

The reason for this is two fold. Firstly, Jesus is not the name of the Father, but it is rather the name of the Son (2nd John 3). Secondly, Jesus tells us that the designation “Father” is a name and not a title. If he had wanted to say that “Father” was a title, then Luke would have used the Greek “titlos” and not “onoma,” which is the Greek for ‘name.’ So Chan Father must be a name and not a title, otherwise the Lord's prayer would read; “hallowed be thy title (titlos) Father.”
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