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Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder
If the Son doesn't possess divine attributes then the Son in that theology would not be Yahweh God at all, for Yahweh cannot exist without his divine attributes. My point Chan is that Oneness is effectively not really very different from the Watchtower, Unitarian and other subordinationist theologies as you deny that the Son is eternal, creator, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent as the Son. Your God is he who indwells the SON< the Son himself as he doesn't possess divine attributes isn't Yahweh God in Oneness theology.
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You wrongly assume that I'm oneness and, no, it is not true that oneness is pretty much the same as the Watchtower (which teaches Arius' heresy), the Unitarian (which denies the deity of Christ) and other "subordinationist" theologies (it could be argued that such church fathers as Justin Martyr were subordinationists and Jesus did say "my Father is greater than I").
There is one very important thing that you
must understand about the Son: the Bible says that the Son was
begotten. The word is one that indicates a beginning point in time. The prophetic psalm says that this beginning point was when God said "this day have I begotten thee." John said that the logos (the divine expression, the memra) became flesh and dwelt among us and said that this was "the only begotten of the Father."
John 3:16 tells us that God sent His "only begotten" or only-born Son. This necessitates a beginning point. Thus, Jesus' status
as the Son is limited to His humanity. Also, the Nicene fathers made it a point to state that, with regard to His divinity, Jesus was homoousion (the same substance, of one essence) with the Father - and not a separate or distinct substance/essence.
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