Pastor Terry Crist

[Robby]

Originally Posted by Robby

Let me introduce myself. I am a great-grandchild of both C.P. Williams & S.R. Hanby. I am Apostolic. My mother has passed. She died of cancer while trusting God for her healing. Some of their children may have forsaken, but not all. Please, before you speak, check your facts. I do not defend wrong.Have always attempted to stand for right. You may rest assured their is a remnant. As for the pedigree.....you speak of them as though they were dogs. I am tremendously thankful for my heritage. :-)

The facts do not matter, I suppose. Well.... ??

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Robby

The facts do not matter, I suppose. Well.... ??

You do realize your posting on a thread that has been dead for 3 and a half years, right?

[Crispy6983]

Originally Posted by BHILL

They were very talented,John Williams was a very gifted guitar player and encouraged me to play music when I was a kid,he took quite a interest in us,took us to concerts, etc.Too bad he did'nt live up to what he preached.
Our church split because of his indiscretions and our assistant pastor, Gary Howard took the split and has done well.
Judy and Terry were into some weird stuff when they pastored in Tulsa.They would have everyone throw up into bags to get rid of bad spirits,attitudes or something bad.I believe they quit that stuff.I hope they are doing well but don't agree with their beliefs.

Wow are you sure that you are talking about the same Crist Family???

I was a member of WORD OF GRACE under paster Gary Kidman, and the church merged with CITY CHURCH. They decided to combine the names and call the church City Of Grace. I am still a Very active member of this church.

Let me share something that is just known in the church but is not talked about on the web that much. Yes the Mission of the Church is to LOVE PEOPLE TO LIFE, but a definite underlining mission that was taught by Gary for years and is still deeply ingrained in the church is, "JESUS PLUS NOTHING". Truth be told this is how i live my life still to this day. I see a bunch of people bickering about how words on a website were formed. COME ON.......

I love the Crist's and i know that they have changed.....you will never catch me doing that.... DEAD OR ALIVE.

Terry has talked about the change that they have gone through sometimes at church but i can tell that they are guarded... and this might be one of the reasons why. if you can check out a pod cast GREAT stuff it has changed my life.

As a church boy chewing on the back of a pew as a child i grew up in Pentecostal church on the east cost. when i moved to Arizona i was 4 square for a while then Baptist.... ya thats a flip. When i turned 16 i left God and the church and never wanted any thing to do with church EVER again... Drugs, Alcohol, and other destructive behavior became part of my life. This is what Denomination does... DESTROYS the message of Jesus and what he came for. I will say it again JESUS PLUS NOTHING, JESUS PLUS NOTHING, JESUS PLUS NOTHING.

This is what you will learn at this church.... come by i will save you a seat 10 in the front of the church.... well second row.

Well i feel better 'bout you???

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Crispy6983

Wow are you sure that you are talking about the same Crist Family???

I was a member of WORD OF GRACE under paster Gary Kidman, and the church merged with CITY CHURCH. They decided to combine the names and call the church City Of Grace. I am still a Very active member of this church.

Let me share something that is just known in the church but is not talked about on the web that much. Yes the Mission of the Church is to LOVE PEOPLE TO LIFE, but a definite underlining mission that was taught by Gary for years and is still deeply ingrained in the church is, "JESUS PLUS NOTHING". Truth be told this is how i live my life still to this day. I see a bunch of people bickering about how words on a website were formed. COME ON.......

I love the Crist's and i know that they have changed.....you will never catch me doing that.... DEAD OR ALIVE.

Terry has talked about the change that they have gone through sometimes at church but i can tell that they are guarded... and this might be one of the reasons why. if you can check out a pod cast GREAT stuff it has changed my life.

As a church boy chewing on the back of a pew as a child i grew up in Pentecostal church on the east cost. when i moved to Arizona i was 4 square for a while then Baptist.... ya thats a flip. When i turned 16 i left God and the church and never wanted any thing to do with church EVER again... Drugs, Alcohol, and other destructive behavior became part of my life. This is what Denomination does... DESTROYS the message of Jesus and what he came for. I will say it again JESUS PLUS NOTHING, JESUS PLUS NOTHING, JESUS PLUS NOTHING.

This is what you will learn at this church.... come by i will save you a seat 10 in the front of the church.... well second row.

Well i feel better 'bout you???

I am just coming back to this thread, post now. I appreciate your post here! Great words and testimony. I listen to Pastor Crist fairly regularly via the Podcasts online. He is truly incredible! I visited there in '11 when Kevin Gerald was in town preaching. I enjoyed my time there for sure.

[TommysDad]

When I was a very young child, I attended the Apostolic Church in West Tulsa, pastored by Bro. John David Williams. I remember Bro. C.P. & Sis. Mary Williams very well, as Sis. Faith Williams.

I had quite the crush on Judy Williams, though I'm sure it was never reciprocated.

My mom, my 2 sisters, and myself all left the church several years before the bottom fell out on that fateful Sunday when John David made his dreadful revelation, but my uncle stayed until that day.

I had often wondered what had happened to that family. I knew that Joy had died, but did not know the circumstances. Didn't they also have a son besides Joy and Judy?

Anyway, I know this is an old thread...was just doing a search for Gary Howard and found this site.