**preacher forums**

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Bullwinkle

I think that you have manage to impugn the good name of every preacher who has participated in forums, accusing members of preacher's forums of collusion in a cover up. I'm a member of three of them (CAF would never have me), and I still think you are blowing smoke with your charges of cover up for adultery and perversion.

Do I think that the names of those who have failed God and their families should be made public - no.

Your charges are that ongoing adultery and perversion are being covered up and the perpetrators are allowed to continue to post with the full knowledge of other members. I'm saying that you are wrong and besmirching the reputations and character of into the hundreds of ministers.

Spew if you want to - just make sure you have the absolute proof.

Where's the accusation that all members of hinted at preacher forums are guilty of a cover up and collusion?

I'm on a couple of said forums and don't feel the least bit guilty or maligned.

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by Bullwinkle

I think that you have manage to impugn the good name of every preacher who has participated in forums, accusing members of preacher's forums of collusion in a cover up. I'm a member of three of them (CAF would never have me), and I still think you are blowing smoke with your charges of cover up for adultery and perversion.

Do I think that the names of those who have failed God and their families should be made public - no.

Your charges are that ongoing adultery and perversion are being covered up and the perpetrators are allowed to continue to post with the full knowledge of other members. I'm saying that you are wrong and besmirching the reputations and character of into the hundreds of ministers.

Spew if you want to - just make sure you have the absolute proof.

What I am about to type is very important, so listen closely.

I say this without one trace of malice or ill intent.

I do not care if you believe me. I do not care if you respect me. Your opinion of me does not change, even a little, how I feel or what I know.

[MissBrattified]

The most impressive thing about this thread is the list of people who have read it.

The truth is: there are people who could be publicly shamed. However, it wouldn't be Christlike to do that even if they deserved it.

The lie is: If you don't [won't] publicly shame someone, then what you're saying must be a lie.

The solution might be: For preachers that stand up staunchly against false doctrine, and put certain people from among them who purport anything other than the Apostolic message to show just as strong a stance against immorality.

Otherwise, those preachers can reasonably be accused of inconsistency, at the very least.

Christians are known by how they live just as much by what they preach and teach if not MORE so.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.


IOW - you can talk theology until you're blue in the face, but we'll know if you belong to HIM by how you live.

[Bullwinkle]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Dear Canadian Brother,

Your smear campaign is going smashingly. You humor me.

FTR, I have only ever been banned from one forum, Wordshare.

I asked to be removed from AMF. I have never applied to CAF, and one of the guys who is the focus of this thread never approved my application for membership at JP.

So, you are very horribly mistaken. Your information is wrong.

Could be that you weren't banned - I've been wrong before.

Mine is not a smear campaign - mine is a campaign to supply the Windex and paper towels to remove the smear placed on the reputations of good men and women by the premise of this thread.

Got nothing personally against you - just don't like the thread and the accusations included in it.

[Bullwinkle]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

The most impressive thing about this thread is the list of people who have read it.

The truth is: there are people who could be publicly shamed. However, it wouldn't be Christlike to do that even if they deserved it.

The lie is: If you don't [won't] publicly shame someone, then what you're saying must be a lie.

The solution might be: For preachers that stand up staunchly against false doctrine, and put certain people from among them who purport anything other than the Apostolic message to show just as strong a stance against immorality.

Otherwise, those preachers can reasonably be accused of inconsistency, at the very least.

Christians are known by how they live just as much by what they preach and teach if not MORE so.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.


IOW - you can talk theology until you're blue in the face, but we'll know if you belong to HIM by how you live.

The one's I know take every bit as strong a stand against immorality as they do against the other things you mention. That's my point.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Bullwinkle

The one's I know take every bit as strong a stand against immorality as they do against the other things you mention. That's my point.

As far as YOU know, they do. It is possible that you don't know everything about everything, and that you won't be *read in* anymore than you already are.

Curiosity does not always need to be satisfied. Even when someone is throwing a temper tantrum and demanding it.

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by Bullwinkle

Could be that you weren't banned - I've been wrong before.

Mine is not a smear campaign - mine is a campaign to supply the Windex and paper towels to remove the smear placed on the reputations of good men and women by the premise of this thread.

Got nothing personally against you - just don't like the thread and the accusations included in it.

I didn't start the thread, and admin can do whatever they want to with it. I simply don't care. However, your attacks on my character were specific, malicious, and very public.

My comments never mentioned any specifics. No persons or sites.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Bullwinkle

The one's I know take every bit as strong a stand against immorality as they do against the other things you mention. That's my point.

The real point is that some that have received much mercy don't give it to those that they perceive as being out of the Old Time way. Show mercy to those that fall and mercy to those you don't agree with doctrinally with the same measure of mercy.

[Bullwinkle]

Originally Posted by Charnock

I didn't start the thread, and admin can do whatever they want to with it. I simply don't care. However, your attacks on my character were specific, malicious, and very public.

My comments never mentioned any specifics. No persons or sites.

Not character --actions.

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

The most impressive thing about this thread is the list of people who have read it.

The truth is: there are people who could be publicly shamed. However, it wouldn't be Christlike to do that even if they deserved it.

The lie is: If you don't [won't] publicly shame someone, then what you're saying must be a lie.

The solution might be: For preachers that stand up staunchly against false doctrine, and put certain people from among them who purport anything other than the Apostolic message to show just as strong a stance against immorality.

Otherwise, those preachers can reasonably be accused of inconsistency, at the very least.

Christians are known by how they live just as much by what they preach and teach if not MORE so.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.


IOW - you can talk theology until you're blue in the face, but we'll know if you belong to HIM by how you live.

You're absolutely right.

My observation was general in nature. I apologize for any misunderstandings my posts caused.

That being said, my opinion has not changed because I simply know what I know.