Abusive Preachers - Page 4

BeenThinkin · #31 03-22-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Someone just sent this to me via PM:

Yes, the California staff job is correct. He worked there several years. Steve is not anti-tithes or anti-UPC, and his dad is not any longer either.

What do you guys mean by "anti-tithes?"

Excuse me! MY BAD! I need to get MY facts straight. Steve's granddad was the one that was very much anti-tithes, (against paying tithes) and was very much anti-UPC. Don't know for sure how Steve's dad (James Pixler) taught following his dad's death. But, believe me, Steve's grandpa was from a very hard, strict, anti-everything fellowship of churches in Ft Worth and North Texas in the sixties and seventies. Sorry for the mix up. I was thinking of James instead of Steve.

BT

BeenThinkin · #32 03-22-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Sounds funny. Do you mean he didn't support the Evangelical and Pentecostal teaching on tithing that you must give 10% or be cursed by God?

If so... sign me up.

At one point it was even preached in the fellowship of independent churches there in the Ft Worth area that tithes was a part of the mark of the beast! Now that will rot your socks, won't it?

BT

Socialite · #33 03-22-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

At one point it was even preached in the fellowship of independent churches there in the Ft Worth area that tithes was a part of the mark of the beast! Now that will rot your socks, won't it?

BT

Yeah! **shocked**

You won't find too many pastors preaching against tithes anymore lol

Consapostolic1 · #34 03-22-2011, 05:01 PM

I've always enjoyed listening to Bro. Pixler's messages. My former church was independent and attended conferences held at his church, but this is my first time hearing of the anti-tithe issue. Neither did I know about an anti-upc issue because I’ve often wondered why he wasn’t UPC? I do know that he was the youth pastor for First Church of San Jose (Bro. Shoemake) years ago and that he’s preaching at the Canada UPC camp this year. His church has changed a lot recently in regard to holiness standards; I’d definitely consider him moderate.

*AQuietPlace* · #35 03-22-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Consapostolic1

but this is my first time hearing of the anti-tithe issue. Neither did I know about an anti-upc issue because I’ve often wondered why he wasn’t UPC?

That's because it apparently wasn't an issue.

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Someone just sent this to me via PM:

Yes, the California staff job is correct. He worked there several years. Steve is not anti-tithes or anti-UPC, and his dad is not any longer either.

A lot of people aren't UPC. There is a very large group of independent preachers out there in Apostolic Land.

Consapostolic1 · #36 03-22-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

That's because it apparently wasn't an issue.

A lot of people aren't UPC. There is a very large group of independent preachers out there in Apostolic Land.

I know, I've independent before.

seguidordejesus · #37 03-22-2011, 05:41 PM

In what way was he/they anti-tithes? Don't pay tithes at all? Did they have some sort of alternate plan for church funding? Be specific

BeenThinkin · #38 03-22-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

In what way was he/they anti-tithes? Don't pay tithes at all? Did they have some sort of alternate plan for church funding? Be specific

They did not believe tithes was a New Testament doctrine and thus they took a very negative approach to tithing, especially taking exception to those who preached the doctrine of tithing. They had no set plan of support for the churches and simply hoped that everyone would do their part and that enough money would come in to support the church.

Yes, they did not pay tithes. Tithes was a bad word in their thinking.

And again, they had no set plan for support.

BT

RandyWayne · #39 03-22-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

In what way was he/they anti-tithes? Don't pay tithes at all? Did they have some sort of alternate plan for church funding? Be specific

I am sure he (if he is) or anyone else opposed to tithing as a law, is not anti giving.

BeenThinkin · #40 03-22-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I am sure he (if he is) or anyone else opposed to tithing as a law, is not anti giving.

And they were not anti-giving. Some good people that were very subjected to the pastor and amazingly did seem to do their part. You never really heard a lot preached about giving but the anti-tithes came up often it seemed.

BT