Sister Wives

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by ILG

In the more closed societies, they find excuses for the boys to be kicked out. No joke. Their hair was 1/8th of an inch too long. Any reason and they are gone for convenience.

It seems very incestuous to me.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Cindy

It seems very incestuous to me.

Yeah. It does seem to matter which group they are with though. Like in the video I put on here.....they seem to be fairly normal and of the same age. They also apparently choose their mates. But in the FLDS (where they did the raid in Texas), the prophet "assigns" spouses. It's sick. Little girls and old men. Even when they are close in age, they only find out shortly before the "wedding" who they are assigned to. Later on when things started getting sicker (after Warren Jeffs took over) wives and families could be "reassigned" when the men didn't toe the line. So, there seems to be a spectrum for sure.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by ILG

Yeah. It does seem to matter which group they are with though. Like in the video I put on here.....they seem to be fairly normal and of the same age. They also apparently choose their mates. But in the FLDS (where they did the raid in Texas), the prophet "assigns" spouses. It's sick. Little girls and old men. Even when they are close in age, they only find out shortly before the "wedding" who they are assigned to. Later on when things started getting sicker (after Warren Jeffs took over) wives and families could be "reassigned" when the men didn't toe the line. So, there seems to be a spectrum for sure.

Yeah, people do all kinds of things in the name of religion.

[Sister Alvear]

seems like Texas has a drawing power for cults...

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by ILG

In the more closed societies, they find excuses for the boys to be kicked out. No joke. Their hair was 1/8th of an inch too long. Any reason and they are gone for convenience.

It's not uncommon to find young men walking lonely Utah highways because they were kicked out. Have to save the young girls for the dirty old men.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by ILG

Very good video, NFS. It really describes WHY they are polygamous. I see there are tons of groups that have sprouted from Joseph Smith. The video does a good job of showing the ugly backside to the Mormon church and especially, Mormon fundamentalism. But, it still doesn't really address the issues I brought up. What do you do with people in these situations? I think maybe the best thing to do is pretty much what they do do....leave it illegal and use that against them if you need it and otherwise leave them alone.

I could see in the Sister Wives video, that they did have some denial of their feelings and that they were more "trying" to feel a certain way rather than that they actually felt certain ways. They all seemed to truly believe in what they were doing and thought it was right. It did bother me when he married the 4th and the women struggled so much. He seemed callous to their feelings, but what are you supposed to do when God wants you to do what your wives don't want? Pretty tough situations.

Glad you enjoyed the video. As far as dealing with the issue of Polygamy and Law, if there was a Polygamist camp outside of our town, I'm not sure it would be a good idea to go in there and break it up only because we disagree with what they are doing.

But, if abuse is discovered, that changes things entirely. To be honest, I think all of the camps suffer from sexual/mental abuse. The reason for this is simple; one man sleeping with several women creates an environment of promiscuity because the boundary of monogamy has been broken. When the simplicity of monogamy vanishes, sexual perversion will follow, and there’s no stopping a person from turning to the fallacies of someone like Solomon.

It would take valid testimonies from people within the camp to bring justice, just like the people who testified in the film, "Lifting the Veil of Polygamy". The problem is, manipulation runs so deep in these circles that fear becomes the controlling factor.

I also agree with your observation that the "Sister Wives" video reeked of denial. They make everyone look happy, without a serious one on one about the struggles of Polygamy. Also, it would be interesting to talk to the children, finding out the secrets of what goes on in these homes.

In the video I posted, these women talked about when they were kids, watching the father go into different rooms for sex. The women were also honest about how they felt about their husband sleeping with other women/wives, and how jealousy is in every Polygamist home; there is no way to avoid this.

For the clearest mental picture, just imagine your husband sleeping with another woman (women) in your own home.

[Aquila]

Interesting article....

http://newsinitiative.org/story/2007...ms_polygamy_is

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Interesting article....

http://newsinitiative.org/story/2007...ms_polygamy_is

No eligible men to marry, that's different than most polygamy reasons I think.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

I'm not an advocate of Polygamy in any form. The family unit suffers and abuse is prominent in this Culture. Below is a link (video) showing the very sobering facts about this lifestyle that breeds dysfunction and heartbreak.

This is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen on the subject.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0562849262422#

Just got a chance to listen to this. Very interesting.

"How do you worship God when you become His equal?"

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by ILG

I imagine this "belief" was pretty handy for the men who invented it. However, now, they are raised this way, whether they like it or not.

They didn't invent it. It's been around since Bible times.