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Old 03-29-2011, 10:02 AM
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Re: Killing Bulls & Goats Was Easier Than Grace

Here is my question... Do you works have other spiritual gifts?

1.The Word of Knowledge
2.The Word of Wisdom


Subjective to some point can you verify?

3.The Gift of Prophecy
4.The Gift of Faith - again can you verify?
5.The Gifts of Healings
6.The Working of Miracles
7.The Discerning of Spirits - different views on what is meant and can one verify?
8.Different Kinds of Tongues
9.The Interpretation of Tongues
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:18 AM
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:41 AM
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I can tell you all right now. Salvation is by faith in the shed blood of Jesus and nothing else. If a person of any church is claiming to be a christian then they must have undergone a spiritual transformation or they are not like Christ and can't claim to be a christian. If someone is teaching that your are saved by keeping the commandments then PAUL SAID.Having begun in faith are you now made perfect by the law,? he then stated, I fear that you have fallen from grace[ Fell out of favor with God} In other words they are not in alignment with the mind and plan of God.
If someone is claiming to be saved it has to be in past tense. That is what faith is. Know you have something even though it has not appeared.Anything outside of that is confessing to being saved at some point in time. If that is the case of a believer then they are not saved at all. I wish people could understand the true doctrine of sanctification instead of misleading people into a hard yoke that they who teach it do even follow>
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I can tell you all right now. Salvation is by faith in the shed blood of Jesus and nothing else. If a person of any church is claiming to be a christian then they must have undergone a spiritual transformation or they are not like Christ and can't claim to be a christian. If someone is teaching that your are saved by keeping the commandments then PAUL SAID.Having begun in faith are you now made perfect by the law,? he then stated, I fear that you have fallen from grace[ Fell out of favor with God} In other words they are not in alignment with the mind and plan of God.
If someone is claiming to be saved it has to be in past tense. That is what faith is. Know you have something even though it has not appeared.Anything outside of that is confessing to being saved at some point in time. If that is the case of a believer then they are not saved at all. I wish people could understand the true doctrine of sanctification instead of misleading people into a hard yoke that they who teach it do even follow>
How does this transformation take place? Magically? At the moment you believe? When you are baptized? These questions are answered in the BIble, if we would read them.
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How does this transformation take place? Magically? At the moment you believe? When you are baptized? These questions are answered in the BIble, if we would read them.
I Peter 1' 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and adideth for ever. That takes place the moment that a sinner repents by faith under the power of the Holy Ghost drawing him. Jesus said;
John 6; 44, No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:39,And this is the Fathers will which hath sent me, that of ALL which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
VERSE 39, And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
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I Peter 1' 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and adideth for ever. That takes place the moment that a sinner repents by faith under the power of the Holy Ghost drawing him. Jesus said;
John 6; 44, No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:39,And this is the Fathers will which hath sent me, that of ALL which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
VERSE 39, And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
Acts 2:38, Romans 6:1-7, Romans 8:9-11, John 3:16, John 3:17-21, etc.

I mean we could go on

1 John chapters 3, 4, 5

We have a whole book for a whole reason, to save us to the uttermost.
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Acts 2:38, Romans 6:1-7, Romans 8:9-11, John 3:16, John 3:17-21, etc.

I mean we could go on

1 John chapters 3, 4, 5

We have a whole book for a whole reason, to save us to the uttermost.


Before there was a book, they were saved to the innermost? What does this "uttermost" business mean?

Good scriptures. Careful not to present every scripture as an "add-on" to Grace when it need not be though.
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