Obama NOT natural born American Citizen

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Ever hear of "Anchor Baby"? Even the children of illegals born here are natural born citizens. OB has at least one legal citizen as his parent

That's what I thought! Even children born on US soil to parents without citizenship in the US are US citizens, from birth. He was born on US soil, to an American mother. He's a natural born citizen.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Ever hear of "Anchor Baby"? Even the children of illegals born here are natural born citizens. OB has at least one legal citizen as his parent

That is true, but in complying with the office of President it says "parents" plural.

Seems to me that makes a difference.

[coadie]

Terms needing definition

natural born
anchor baby
nationalized citizen
dual citizenship
citizen

Who said this?

Who are natural-born citizens but those born in the Republic? […] [P]ersons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians.

[canam]

Hit me with it coadie ,who said that ?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by canam

Hit me with it coadie ,who said that ?

John Bingham stated in the House of Representatives in 1862:
I was a waiting for team pelthais/light to tell but apparently not.

[canam]

They'er busy .They are all doing there own independent document anylasis in consultation with JD,Decision will be written by JD. JD's decision will start like this " i didn't vote for him, but i believe him"

[Aleks Fife]

Yeah, I want to see the placenta!

[Walks_in_islam]

Good grief. 1862 law?

WAIT: Maybe he was born in Hawaii on one of those big plantations. If you apply the 3/5 "plantation" rule from 1782 then Obama actually lost the election anyway Subtract 8% of the vote from Obama's side and we have a clear winner.

BUT: The winner was born in Panama. OOPS. Not a natural born citizen under the cited 1862 definition either.

Why dont you crazy birther nuts try working that one out.

In the meantime for the sane among us the law is not unclear and is very, very specific.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html

CURRENT law defines the missing terms and sets "natural born" = "citizenship at birth" then specifically defines what constitutes "citizenship at birth".

Please read current law, detemine that the president falls under no category of current law and come back with a valid argument. Current law says "parent", not "parents".

If you are a US citizen, married to a non-US citizen, working in a 3rd country and have a child, your child is not a citizen of that 3rd country because he/she was born there. Your child is a US citizen from birth, AND a citizen of the country of birth of the other parent. As a US citizen from birth, your child can, if he/she wishes, someday run for the thankless job of President.

Dont like that? Run for office and change the law. Good luck.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Esther

That is true, but in complying with the office of President it says "parents" plural.

Seems to me that makes a difference.

Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepre...resrequire.htm

Additionally, the Twelfth Amendment states that: "[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." The Fourteenth Amendment does not use the phrase "natural born citizen". It does provide that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural..._United_States

The presidency does NOT require both parents be US citizens if he is a natural born citizen (born here)

[Walks_in_islam]

As per the link to USC Title VIII the law defines "citizenship at birth" aka "nationals AND citizens" as having Either (1) US citizen or US national (naturalized citizen) parent and born (anywhere) or having parents as citizens of (anywhere) but born (anywhere) on US soil.

There are US residence requirements for the citizen parent if the child is NOT born on US soil.

"Nationals" or naturalized citizens are still excluded from the presidency under current law.

Children of "Nationals" or naturalized citizens are granted "citizenship at birth" under current law.

Arnold cannot run for president. Arnold's children, even if they were born in Austria with an Austrian mother, under current law, are US citizens at birth (natural born US citizens) and they can run for president.

Obama was born either overseas with a US citizen parent or born in Hawaii with a US citizen parent and either way was a natural born US citizen under the law. Which. is. why. after. 2. years. this. has. not. gone. anywhere.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepre...resrequire.htm

Additionally, the Twelfth Amendment states that: "[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." The Fourteenth Amendment does not use the phrase "natural born citizen". It does provide that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural..._United_States

The presidency does NOT require both parents be US citizens if he is a natural born citizen (born here)