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05-05-2011, 10:57 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Just for one, off the top, going to war on lies and killing over 100,000 of the innocent people of Iraq, and over 5,000 of our men and women. President Clinton was taken to court on really nothing that did not hurt anyone, only his moral values. The waterboarding was against the Geneva Convention, we all know the facts.
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Why don't you post these "facts"
Where does the Geneva Convention discuss waterboarding?
Do you deny the Democrats aurhtoiries the "war"? Abd keep voting to fiund the Iraq military actions?
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05-05-2011, 11:18 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Try to tell the love ones of 9/11 that it was illegal. And the love ones of the firemen that are still dying because of trying to help the people that day. It is NOT patriotic in saying it was illegal. People of our country that makes such a statement are not true Americans or they are racist. It was very heroic of our President and the Navy Seals.
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Obama is doing his publicity stunt at "Ground zero" today.
Only 50 families are invited. 50. It is a closed deal for his ego.
The other several thousands of families are NOT welcome.
Obama has no problem "picking" who is worthy of touching his robes.
So you must seem to think it is OK to tell the others he doesn't care. This is just "symbolic" and not really about grieving.
I notice you play the racist accusation card.
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05-05-2011, 11:34 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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coadie, the Geneva Convention writes the laws of war, and if Congress did what they should have done, then Bush and Cheney would be in prison today. We all know the truth. They were afraid that if democrats went into office, then they would be in prison. Be thankful that our President didn't want to use the money on lawyers and court cost for the American people to have to pay with their taxes.
You have to admit coadie, that many people are against President Obama, simply because his skin color is darker. I know, because I have some stupid relatives that has made stupid racist remarks, and they are STUPID, but I still pray for them.
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Seascapes, while it cannot be denied that there are racists are among us, you also have to be willing to admit that there are times that the issue of race is overplayed to subterfuge that mistakes are made or policies are failing.
Were those who opposed Clarence Thomas' appointment to the Supreme Court racists? Did the color of his skin have anything to do with the effort to derail his appointment? Were those who battled with Michael Steele while he led the RNC on television, the editorialists, the pundits, the comedians and others, racists? Are those people who disliked Condalezza Rice during her service during the Bush years racists? If people speak out or oppose black Republicans or conservatives is because they are racists or could it be that most of them simply disagree and are diametrically opposed to their politics and policies?
Can conservatives be passionately opposed to this president purely out of political differences and policy issues? If we can show you a consistent opposition to Carter, Clinton, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid et al can our opposition to Obama be nothing more than another expression of our conservative values without being labeled racists?
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05-05-2011, 11:40 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Fox's Shep Smith:
"Is anyone talking about the fact that this is illegal-- this operation was illegal?"
Really?
Gimme a break!
How many conservatives see a problem with the assertion and line of thinking associated with FOX's assertion?
Not many, I bet.
I guess there are many who would agree to the fallacy that what President Obama did was illegal.
I guess there are some conservatives who would like to see our President brought up on war crime charges for the death of bin laden....
Absolutely maddening!
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Shepherd Smith's opinion isn't necessarily "FOX'S assertion." It could well be that Mr. Smith simply has an opinion or viewpoint that is at variance with some of his colleagues. If you are correct about what Smith has said, then I guess this would be an example of just that.
And... Smith is hardly a "conservative." He's no ideologue at all, at least from what I've seen of him. He just does his bit and tries to tweak people's noses just for the sake of getting a reaction.
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05-05-2011, 12:26 PM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Originally Posted by Seascapes
coadie, the Geneva Convention writes the laws of war, and if Congress did what they should have done, then Bush and Cheney would be in prison today. We all know the truth. They were afraid that if democrats went into office, then they would be in prison. Be thankful that our President didn't want to use the money on lawyers and court cost for the American people to have to pay with their taxes.
You have to admit coadie, that many people are against President Obama, simply because his skin color is darker. I know, because I have some stupid relatives that has made stupid racist remarks, and they are STUPID, but I still pray for them.
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Seascape, you are pathetic. I said I was not going to respond to any more of your trash but I am amazed! Every post it seems you stoop lower and lower! It seems you are the one always bringing up race! Get over it! You might try going and praying through.... or have you forgot what that means? You're hatred is overwhelming.
Joh 13:35* By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Joh 15:8* Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
Man, the kind of fruit you are putting forth is certainly not the fruit of the spirit!
Sorry... God help me! I'm through with you again! I'm sure you don't care!
May God bless you and heal your spirit!
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05-05-2011, 12:35 PM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Seascape, you are pathetic. I said I was not going to respond to any more of your trash but I am amazed! Every post it seems you stoop lower and lower! It seems you are the one always bringing up race! Get over it! You might try going and praying through.... or have you forgot what that means? You're hatred is overwhelming.
Joh 13:35* By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Joh 15:8* Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
Man, the kind of fruit you are putting forth is certainly not the fruit of the spirit!
Sorry... God help me! I'm through with you again! I'm sure you don't care!
May God bless you and heal your spirit!
Been Thinkin
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Amen and Amen.
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05-05-2011, 01:19 PM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Fox's Shep Smith:
"Is anyone talking about the fact that this is illegal-- this operation was illegal?"
Really?
Gimme a break!
How many conservatives see a problem with the assertion and line of thinking associated with FOX's assertion?
Not many, I bet.
I guess there are many who would agree to the fallacy that what President Obama did was illegal.
I guess there are some conservatives who would like to see our President brought up on war crime charges for the death of bin laden....
Absolutely maddening!
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Conservatives should be champions of the rule of law. If it was illegal, it was illegal. However, while what happened MIGHT have been illegal, I think justice was served.
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05-05-2011, 01:36 PM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Conservatives should be champions of the rule of law. If it was illegal, it was illegal. However, while what happened MIGHT have been illegal, I think justice was served.
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Killing Osama bin Laden in Pakistan was not illegal according to US laws nor according to the Geneva Conventions.
bin Laden has been making war without his troops wearing insignia nor uniforms. Under the recognized Laws of War, he should be either hanged or shot when he is found.
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05-05-2011, 02:16 PM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Killing Osama bin Laden in Pakistan was not illegal according to US laws nor according to the Geneva Conventions.
bin Laden has been making war without his troops wearing insignia nor uniforms. Under the recognized Laws of War, he should be either hanged or shot when he is found.
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I'm not familiar with all the international laws at this time. That's why I gave my opinion even if it MIGHT have been illegal.
Illegal or not, justice was served.
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05-05-2011, 02:28 PM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Killing Osama bin Laden in Pakistan was not illegal according to US laws nor according to the Geneva Conventions.
bin Laden has been making war without his troops wearing insignia nor uniforms. Under the recognized Laws of War, he should be either hanged or shot when he is found.
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Right there. It is my understanding if you capture a military person during war from and enemy, there are prisoner rules. You can't torture him and must release him after the war.
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