Is Yeshua Your Father?

[Sister Alvear]

do you really know? I have read lots of articles, studied a lot ...on this subject ..I did not mean to offend you...I just think there are lots of things we do not know everything about.

Sorry If I offended you it was not intended...

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

do you really know? I have read lots of articles, studied a lot ...on this subject ..I did not mean to offend you...I just think there are lots of things we do not know everything about.

Sorry If I offended you it was not intended...

You absolutely did not offend me. I am used to hearing the name of Yeshua attacked by supposed Apostolics. Now Im not including you in that just saying almost any time I use the Hebrew name someone in the thread directly or indirectly attack it.

I am even told to speak English or dont speak AT ALL right in this thread!

Now if I said that the name "Yeshua" is certainly closer than the name Jesus to the Hebrew Messiah many again "supposed" Apostolics would become angry. And if we would say the name Jesus is only about 400 years old they would likely become angry even tho I have nowhere at any time in my life spoken against the English transliteration.

So how many of you "English only" people reject Yeshua as your Father?

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Yahsua in my opinion is more correct...but no body really knows...

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Funny how if WE dont know we assume no one else knows

I certainly don't claim to know too much of the Hellenistic Greek. I defer to those who have reached a certain level of academic accomplishment.

From what University did you get your degree in the ancient Greek?

[NotforSale]

THE NAMES OF GOD

OLD TESTAMENT NAMES FOR GOD

ELOHIM......Genesis 1:1, Psalm 19:1
meaning "God", a reference to God's power and might.
ADONAI......Malachi 1:6
meaning "Lord", a reference to the Lordship of God.
JEHOVAH--YAHWEH.....Genesis 2:4
a reference to God's divine salvation.
JEHOVAH-MACCADDESHEM.......Exodus 31:13
meaning "The Lord thy sanctifier"
JEHOVAH-ROHI......Psalm 23:1
meaning "The Lord my shepherd"
JEHOVAH-SHAMMAH.......Ezekiel 48:35
meaning "The Lord who is present"
JEHOVAH-RAPHA.........Exodus 15:26
meaning "The Lord our healer"
JEHOVAH-TSIDKENU......Jeremiah 23:6
meaning "The Lord our righteousness"
JEHOVAH-JIREH.........Genesis 22:13-14
meaning "The Lord will provide"
JEHOVAH-NISSI.........Exodus 17:15
meaning "The Lord our banner"
JEHOVAH-SHALOM........Judges 6:24
meaning "The Lord is peace"
JEHOVAH-SABBAOTH......Isaiah 6:1-3
meaning "The Lord of Hosts"
JEHOVAH-GMOLAH........Jeremiah 51:6
meaning "The God of Recompense"
EL-ELYON..............Genesis 14:17-20,Isaiah 14:13-14
meaning "The most high God
EL-ROI................Genesis 16:13
meaning "The strong one who sees"
EL-SHADDAI............Genesis 17:1,Psalm 91:1
meaning "The God of the mountains or God Almighty"
EL-OLAM...............Isaiah 40:28-31
meaning "The everlasting God"


MORE NAMES OF GOD

ABBA.............................Romans 8:15
ADVOCATE.........................I John 2:1 (kjv)
ALMIGHTY.........................Genesis 17:1
ALPHA............................Revelation 22:13
AMEN.............................Revelation 3:14
ANCIENT OF DAYS..................Daniel 7:9
ANOINTED ONE.....................Psalm 2:2
APOSTLE..........................Hebrews 3:1
ARM OF THE LORD..................Isaiah 53:1
AUTHOR OF LIFE...................Acts 3:15
AUTHOR OF OUR FAITH..............Hebrews 12:2

BEGINNING.........................Revelation 21:6
BLESSED & HOLY RULER..............1 Timothy 6:15
BRANCH............................Jeremiah 33:15
BREAD OF GOD......................John 6:33
BREAD OF LIFE.....................John 6:35
BRIDEGROOM........................Isaiah 62:56
BRIGHT MORNING STAR...............Revelation 22:16

CHIEF SHEPHERD.....................1 Peter 5:4
CHOSEN ONE.........................Isaiah 42:1
CHRIST.............................Matthew 22:42
CHRIST OF GOD......................Luke 9:20
CHRIST THE LORD....................Luke 2:11
CHRIST, SON OF LIVING GOD..........Matthew 16:16
COMFORTER..........................John 14:26(kjv)
COMMANDER..........................Isaiah 55:4
CONSOLATION OF ISRAEL...............Luke 2:25
CONSUMING FIRE......................Deut. 4:24, Heb. 12:29
CORNERSTONE.........................Isaiah 28:16
COUNSELOR...........................Isaiah 9:6
CREATOR.............................1 Peter 4:19

DELIVERER..............................Romans 11:26
DESIRED OF ALL NATIONS.................Haggai 2:7
DOOR...................................John 10:7(kjv)

END....................................Revelation 21:6
ETERNAL GOD............................Deut. 33:27
EVERLASTING FATHER.....................Isaiah 9:6

FAITHFUL & TRUE........................Revelation 19:11
FAITHFUL WITNESS.......................Revelation 1:5
FATHER.................................Matthew 6:9
FIRSTBORN (3)........................................Rom.8:2 9,Rev.1:5,Col.1:15
FIRSTFRUITS............................1 Cor.15:20-23
FOUNDATION.............................1 Cor. 3:11
FRIEND OF TAX COLLECTORS & SINNERS.....Matthew 11:19

GENTLE WHISPER.........................1 Kings 19:12
GIFT OF GOD............................John 4:10
GLORY OF THE LORD......................Isaiah 40:5
GOD....................................Genesis 1:1
GOD ALMIGHTY...........................Genesis 17:1
GOD OVER ALL...........................Romans 9:5
GOD WHO SEES ME........................Genesis 16:13
GOOD SHEPHERD..........................John 10:11
GREAT HIGH PRIEST......................Hebrews 4:14
GREAT SHEPHERD.........................Hebrews 13:20
GUIDE..................................Psalm 48:14

HEAD OF THE BODY.......................Colossians 1:18
HEAD OF THE CHURCH.....................Ephesians 5:23
HEIR OF ALL THINGS.....................Hebrews 1:2
HIGH PRIEST............................Hebrews 3:1
HIGH PRIEST FOREVER....................Hebrews 6:20
HOLY ONE...............................Acts 2:27
HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL.....................Isaiah 49:7
HOLY SPIRIT............................John 15:26
HOPE...................................Titus 2:13
HORN OF SALVATION......................Luke 1:69

I AM....................................Exodus 3:14, John 8:58
IMAGE OF GOD............................2 Cor. 4:4
IMAGE OF HIS PERSON.....................Hebrews 1:3 (kjv)
IMMANUEL................................Isaiah 7:14

JEALOUS..............................Exodus 34:14 (kjv)
JEHOVAH..............................Psalm 83:18 (kjv)
JESUS................................Matthew 1:21
JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD................Romans 6:23
JUDGE................................Isaiah 33:22, Acts 10:42

KING.................................Zechariah 9:9
KING ETERNAL.........................1 Timothy 1:17
KING OF KINGS........................1 Timothy 6:15
KING OF THE AGES.....................Revelation 15:3

LAMB OF GOD...........................John 1:29
LAST ADAM.............................1 Cor. 15:45
LAWGIVER..............................Isaiah 33:22
LEADER................................Isaiah 55:4
LIFE..................................John 14:6
LIGHT OF THE WORLD....................John 8:12
LIKE AN EAGLE.........................Deut. 32:11
LILY OF THE VALLEYS...................Song 2:1
LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH............Revelation 5:5
LIVING STONE..........................1 Peter 2:4
LIVING WATER..........................John 4:10
LORD..................................John 13:13
LORD GOD ALMIGHTY.....................Revelation 15:3
LORD JESUS CHRIST.....................1 Cor. 15:57
LORD OF ALL...........................Acts 10:36
LORD OF GLORY ........................1 Cor. 2:8
LORD OF HOSTS.........................Haggai 1:5
LORD OF LORDS.........................1 Tim. 6:15
LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS..............Jeremiah 23:6
LOVE.................................1 John 4:8

MAN OF SORROWS.........................Isaiah 53:3
MASTER..................................Luke 5:5
MEDIATOR................................1 Timothy 2:5
MERCIFUL GOD............................Jeremiah 3:12
MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT................Malachi 3:1
MESSIAH................................. John 4:25
MIGHTY GOD...............................Isaiah 9:6
MIGHTY ONE...............................Isaiah 60:16

NAZARENE.................................Matthew 2:23

OFFSPRING OF DAVID.......................Revelation 22:16
OMEGA....................................Revelatio n 22:13
ONLY BEGOTTEN SON........................John 1:18(kjv)
OUR PASSOVER LAMB........................1 Cor. 5:7
OUR PEACE................................Ephesians 2:14

POTTER...................................Isaiah 64:8
POWER OF GOD.............................1 Cor. 1:24
PRINCE OF PEACE..........................Isaiah 9:6
PROPHET..................................Acts 3:22
PURIFIER.................................Malachi 3:3

RABBONI (TEACHER)........................John 20:16
RADIANCE OF GOD'S GLORY..................Heb.1:3
REDEEMER.................................Job 19:25
REFINER'S FIRE...........................Malachi 3:2
RESURRECTION.............................John 11:25
RIGHTEOUS ONE............................1 John 2:1
ROCK.....................................1 Cor.10:4
ROOT OF DAVID............................Rev. 22:16
ROSE OF SHARON...........................Song 2:1
RULER OF GOD'S CREATION..................Rev. 3:14
RULER OVER KINGS OF EARTH................Rev 1:5
RULER OVER ISRAEL........................Micah 5:2

SAVIOR...................................Luke 2:11
SCEPTER OUT OF ISRAEL....................Numbers 24:17
SEED.....................................Genesis 3:15
SERVANT..................................Isaiah 42:1
SHEPHERD OF OUR SOULS....................1Peter 2:25
SHIELD...................................Genesis 15:1
SON OF DAVID.............................Matthew 1:1
SON OF GOD...............................Matthew 27:54
SON OF MAN...............................Matthew 8:20
SON OF THE MOST HIGH.....................Luke 1:32
SOURCE...................................Hebrews 5:9
SPIRIT OF GOD............................Genesis 1:2
STAR OUT OF JACOB........................Numbers 24:17
STONE....................................1 Peter 2:8
SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.....................Malachi 4:2

TEACHER...................................John 13:13
TRUE LIGHT................................John 1:9
TRUE WITNESS..............................Revelation 3:14
TRUTH.....................................John 14:6

VINE......................................John 15:5

WAY........................................John 14:6
WISDOM OF GOD..............................1 Cor. 1:24
WITNESS....................................Isaiah 55:4
WONDERFUL..................................Isaiah 9:6
WORD.......................................John 1:1
WORD OF GOD................................Revelation 19:13

[Michael The Disciple]

As a young believer in Jesus I came into contact with a world wide Pentecostal group called "The Ceylon Pentecostal Mission". Now this was in 1977-1980 when I had an association with them. There were believers from many nations. You heard the Messiahs name in more than one tongue.

I rejoiced greatly being among these people as they were lovers of Jesus Christ. When I heard him called "Yeshua" I was not offended. These same ones who called Jesus "Yeshua" were some of the most bold and courageous disciples I ever knew. They witnessed In Brooklyn at one of the Synagogues there and took a ferocious beating from the good people there.

That didnt stop them from witnessing in Jerusalem where they met with the same results. Conversions along with persecutions. Yeshua was a favored name among them but any name that was used that corresponded to the Messiah was honored. English, French, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Indian among others were used and no one seemed offended.

There was love there and holiness. I enjoyed those days. Fast forward to Apostolic Oneness (at least American style). Oh how magnificent the truth they taught me of baptism in Jesus name and the Oneness of God! How I looked forward to joining an Apostolic Assembly!

Boy was I disappointed. In Oneness and Acts 2:38 they have no equal. Beyond that I have seen very little of the New Testament Culture I so long for.

Nonetheless to teach and rejoice in the truth that Yeshua/Jesus is the EVERLASTING FATHER is the glue that ties me to the Oneness Brotherhood.

Im not about to let an offence keep me from continuing doing that so I now return to the thread topic.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

do you really know? I have read lots of articles, studied a lot ...on this subject ..I did not mean to offend you...I just think there are lots of things we do not know everything about.

Sorry If I offended you it was not intended...

Sis Alvear,

Two days ago I baptized my 39 year old daughter into the name of Jesus Christ. I know you as one I can ask to pray with us that she will receive the Holy Spirit baptism.

Also I have seen you using the Hebrew transliteration (at least one) so I know you understand where Im coming from. Peace, Mike

[Michael The Disciple]

Is Yeshua YOUR Father?

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18 And will be a FATHER unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 2 Cor. 6:17-18

The Lord Almighty is the Father of the Christian!

Who IS the Lord Almighty?

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the LORD, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the ALMIGHTY . Rev. 1:7-8 The ONE who is coming is Yeshua! Therefore he is THE LORD ALMIGHTY. The Lord Almighty is the FATHER OF THE CHRISTIAN. That means if YOU are a Christian YESHUA is YOUR FATHER!
That should set off a mighty rejoicing and praise in ALL the Earth!

The purpose of this thread is to show that Yeshua is the Father of the Christian.

[Sam]

One of the Bibles I use is called the CJB or Complete Jewish Bible. It is copyrighted in 1998 by David Stern. He uses the name Yeshua.

I have a Bible called the OJB or Orthodox Jewish Bible, copyright 2002, in pdf format. It uses the name Yehoshua.

I have a book called The Jewish New Testament Commentary by David Stern. It has a copyright date of 1992. In his comments in Matthew chapter 1 he says “...the Messiah’s name is explained on the basis of what he will do. Etymologically the name Yeshua is a contraction of the name Y’hosua (English Joshua) which means YHWH saves. It is also the masculine form of the Hebrew word yeshu’ah which means salvation.
...According to Professors David Flusser and Samuel Safrai, Orhodox Jews, Yeshu was how the name Yeshua was pronounced by Galileeans in the first century....instead of saying ye-SHOO-ah they said YEH-shoo....”

I’m not an expert and I don’t know how “expert” David Stern or the professors he quotes are. I some times use the name “Yeshua” because that is the way I’ve heard it pronounced by others, but since my native tongue is English, I ordinarily just say “Jesus” or “Jesus Christ” to differentiate between Him and the other folks who were called ”Jesus’ in our KJV New Testament. When I was in Mexico in 2004 on a short mission trip i said “Jesus” (Spanish pronunciation) or “Jesucristo.”

[mfblume]

To me, the pronunciation of the name in whatever language is not the point. A name is only sound waves or ink on paper that represent Who He is. Faith in HIM is the point.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mfblume

To me, the pronunciation of the name in whatever language is not the point. A name is only sound waves or ink on paper that represent Who He is. Faith in HIM is the point.

A name is not important? Faith in WHO?