Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?

[Praxeas]

It was not Yehoshua. Yeshua was used instead of Yehoshua after the Exile. Iesous is the translation of Yeshua not Yehoshua

[TGBTG]

Hey guys, I speak yoruba, a language in Nigeria. We call Jesus Christ "Jesu Kristi". Miracles have/do occur in the precious of name of Jesu Kristi. It ain't about the hebrew name. It's about faith in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I have to say, we have argued about godhead, water baptism, clothes, but about the proper pronunciation of Jesus Christ, whew! That takes the cake for me.

Why don't we focus on walking in the Spirit. The arguments are just fleshly arguments. It doesn't edify in the least bit...

You wanna say Yeshua, go for it . Jesus loves you.
You wanna say Jesus, go for it. Jesus loves you

For whosoever will call upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved...

Seriously, I'm in need of some spiritual solid food and I just can't stand the fact that we're arguing over stuff like this.

C'mon guys, let's focus on Jesus. Let's put Jesus where he belongs on top as King of kings and Lord of lords...

I'm starving for REAL Spiritual food...

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Now it comes out! THIS is the issue at long last. THAT is why we NOW believe you are wrong. It DOES matter to you. Your whole concept of the proper pronunciation from a certain language is based upon insistence that the NAME be not lost, which is not the case whatsoever. It is yet another example of OUTWARD EMPHASIS -- something the flesh can relate to in terms of sound waves or ink on paper or pixels on screens.

What??? Did I ever say it did not matter to me? I doubt it. I probably said what I have always said that it is by no means wrong to call Yeshua by his English name Jesus. Obviously it matters to me to call him by his original name best as we can discern it.

Actually its not based on that the name cannot be lost its based on THERE WAS A NAME. A name given by Gabriel the Archangel from YHWH for the naming of his Son. It was not an English name. It was not a Greek name. It was a Hebrew/Aramaic name.

When he was on Earth his friends and family called him by it. The Apostles preached it and prayed to him through it. Peter said there was no other name whereby we must be saved.

Thats the point. Its important to YHWH.

As a side issue it certainly would be ridiculous to think that the greatest man who ever lived who himself was YHWH manifest in the flesh would allow the New Testament Church to forget or lose his name.

We know the name of Abraham dont we? How about Moses or Noah? They were much further back in time than Yeshua. Yet he who was far greater than them has somehow lost his name or does not care if anyone knows it or not.

[NorCal]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Hey guys, I speak yoruba, a language in Nigeria. We call Jesus Christ "Jesu Kristi". Miracles have/do occur in the precious of name of Jesu Kristi. It ain't about the hebrew name. It's about faith in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I have to say, we have argued about godhead, water baptism, clothes, but about the proper pronunciation of Jesus Christ, whew! That takes the cake for me.

Why don't we focus on walking in the Spirit. The arguments are just fleshly arguments. It doesn't edify in the least bit...

You wanna say Yeshua, go for it . Jesus loves you.
You wanna say Jesus, go for it. Jesus loves you

For whosoever will call upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved...

Seriously, I'm in need of some spiritual solid food and I just can't stand the fact that we're arguing over stuff like this.

C'mon guys, let's focus on Jesus. Let's put Jesus where he belongs on top as King of kings and Lord of lords...

I'm starving for REAL Spiritual food...

Are you sure it's not Yeshua we need to focus on. :-P

Anyways, I do not think any of us were arguing. This thread was a carry of of me asking MTD why he uses Yeshua. I have had those people that would noly use THAT name, and that being baptized in the name of Jesus is a heresy.

Obviously MTD does not believe that.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by NorCal

Are you sure it's not Yeshua we need to focus on. :-P

Anyways, I do not think any of us were arguing. This thread was a carry of of me asking MTD why he uses Yeshua. I have had those people that would noly use THAT name, and that being baptized in the name of Jesus is a heresy.

Obviously MTD does not believe that.[/QUOTE]

[Michael The Disciple]

TG

You wanna say Yeshua, go for it . Jesus loves you.
You wanna say Jesus, go for it. Jesus loves you

Why not tell that to those who cannot allow the name Yeshua in a thread without attacking it? I have never attacked them over the name of Jesus which I have used myself here thousands of times.

They are the elitists. They are the attackers. I was TRYING to teach about the Oneness of God.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

What if those like myself who have never insisted or even suggested anyone here to use Yeshua cant get through a thread without someone ridiculing the name? Does anyone have a problem with THAT?

Originally Posted by NorCal

I prefer to not use it for the reasons I have stated, and for those that are "re-baptizing".

I personally thought they were over reacting Michael. Unless you make it a test of fellowship or say those who disagree don't have a valid baptism, I think there is plenty of room to believe and practice what some see as a more "original" pronunciation. It is acceptable IMO.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Why not tell that to those who cannot allow the name Yeshua in a thread without attacking it? I have never attacked them over the name of Jesus which I have used myself here thousands of times.

They are the elitists. They are the attackers. I was TRYING to teach about the Oneness of God.

MTD, I for one do not think you're imposing that we MUST call our Lord and savior Yeshua. However, you have to understand like blume said that it APPEARS to be elitist in that you use the Jewish name. You also claim that's what his friends and apostles called him. By saying that's what the apostles called him, (also keep in mind we're all contending for the faith once delivered to the saints), it APPEARS like you are doing what the apostles did while we are not doing what the apostles did.

Again, I'm not saying you're looking down on us for saying Jesus, but when you type in english and then say Yeshua, it carries a connotation of "I have the original and you don't"

I hope you understand what I'm saying. No attack bro, none at all...

Also, you should keep in mind that there are some groups that INSIST on the hebraic/aramaic name to be called upon. These groups (from my experience) tend to be overly sympathetic with the Jewish roots of christianity to the extent of almost Judaizing christians.

So when we look at all these things in perspective, you should be able to see why some people have reacted the way they did...

Like the Apostle Paul said, Am I not free?
Ofcourse you're free to call the Lord Yeshua. However, I would that we do things to seek for the edification of others. If you go on street evangelism, you would not be saying Yeshua to the average joe. Jesus is more known than Yeshua, right?

Since, for the most part, a majority of us on this forum speak english, things go more smoothly if we just stick with Jesus Christ.

Just my thoughts FWIW...

[Thinker]

I heard it was .

Yashua????? not Yeshua.. hehe

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

MTD, I for one do not think you're imposing that we MUST call our Lord and savior Yeshua. However, you have to understand like blume said that it APPEARS to be elitist in that you use the Jewish name. You also claim that's what his friends and apostles called him. By saying that's what the apostles called him, (also keep in mind we're all contending for the faith once delivered to the saints), it APPEARS like you are doing what the apostles did while we are not doing what the apostles did.

Again, I'm not saying you're looking down on us for saying Jesus, but when you type in english and then say Yeshua, it carries a connotation of "I have the original and you don't"

I hope you understand what I'm saying. No attack bro, none at all...

Also, you should keep in mind that there are some groups that INSIST on the hebraic/aramaic name to be called upon. These groups (from my experience) tend to be overly sympathetic with the Jewish roots of christianity to the extent of almost Judaizing christians.

So when we look at all these things in perspective, you should be able to see why some people have reacted the way they did...

Like the Apostle Paul said, Am I not free?
Ofcourse you're free to call the Lord Yeshua. However, I would that we do things to seek for the edification of others. If you go on street evangelism, you would not be saying Yeshua to the average joe. Jesus is more known than Yeshua, right?

Since, for the most part, a majority of us on this forum speak english, things go more smoothly if we just stick with Jesus Christ.

Just my thoughts FWIW...

Thanks for your thoughts Bro. I have encountered the Judaizers you mention. They do much damage in several ways.

Now how about the use of YAHWEH instead of using the English word LORD? If one decides to step out and use the NAME instead of what we know is merely 4 letters not related to God are they ELITISTS?

Should they continue to call YHWH "LORD" or are they ok with using his name?