Where do I Belong? Part II

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Sabby

These are good traditional definitions of the word repentance, but if you're going to use the word Peter used for the altar call on the day of Pentecost it simply means reconsider.
IOW, reconsider, you Jews, who it was who you killed. Reconsider His claims concerning Himself as the Son of God, Son of man and Messiah.
Reconsidering something and being remorseful aren't the same thing, although one can lead to the other, which it did for 3,000 on the DofP.

Here are the choices on how to define μετανοήσατε (which by the way is an imperative) from BDAG: (1) change one's mind or (2) feel remorse, repent, be converted

The second choice is the one in which Acts 2:38 is listed under.

I'm not going to argue this one with you. Take it up with the writers of BDAG.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If

My story is similar to Pastor Keith's.

I am in somewhat of a no man's land, theologically, and the past year has been a year of major transition.

After spending the better part of two decades in the UPCI as an assistant pastor, youth pastor, church planter and senior pastor, I recently turned in my license. I did so because I could no longer stomach the extra-biblical standards, and because my view of what constitutes the plan of salvation has changed.

I now believe we are justified at faith. My view was formed from this passage.

Romans 3:19-28 NLT

"Obviously, the law applies to those to whom it was given, for its purpose is to keep people from having excuses, and to show that the entire world is guilty before God. For no one can ever be made right with God by doing what the law commands. The law simply shows us how sinful we are.

But now God has shown us a way to be made right with him without keeping the requirements of the law, as was promised in the writings of Moses and the prophets long ago. We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are.

For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. Yet God, with undeserved kindness, declares that we are righteous. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he declares sinners to be right in his sight when they believe in Jesus.

Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law."


If we are justified at the moment we believe, all else is secondary and proceeds from that saving faith. Of course, this new (to me) theology does not kosher with that of the majority of Apostolics so I suppose I am no longer Apostolic.

Like Keith, I recently disengaged from all of the minister's forums I had previously posted on.

It's cold out here.

I don't see how anyone can base their theology on so important a doctrine as salvation on the NLT.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

...I'm not going to argue this one with you. Take it up with the writers of BDAG.

what's BDAG?
anything like PBJ? or BLT? or GLBT?

[Trouvere]

We are Pilgrims in this world. Abraham looked for a city whose builder and maker was God.
We still need to look to that day when we will have eternally made it.

[Sabby]

Chateau,
You are more apostolic than those you formerly affiliated yourself with. They have hijacked the term to mean "as per our by-laws"...Take heart!
There are hundreds, probably thousands that have experienced what you have in finding grace instead of law.
The the love of GOD that I have found in the Cross shatters the myth of the gospel in an Acts 2:38 nutshell.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Sabby

Chateau,
You are more apostolic than those you formerly affiliated yourself with. They have hijacked the term to mean "as per our by-laws"...Take heart!
There are hundreds, probably thousands that have experienced what you have in finding grace instead of law.
The the love of GOD that I have found in the Cross shatters the myth of the gospel in an Acts 2:38 nutshell.

Why do you set up a strawman to fight against? Who is saying that Acts 2:38 is the gospel?

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Sam

what's BDAG?
anything like PBJ? or BLT? or GLBT?

It's a greek lexicon of the New Testament. The letters stand for the last names of the men who wrote the lexicon. You can find out more if you Google BDAG.

[Sister Alvear]

Every word of the Bible is important...we need to pray that we will have the wisdom to rightly divide it...

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Every word of the Bible is important...we need to pray that we will have the wisdom to rightly divide it...

Amen I agree with that statement.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

Amen I agree with that statement.

Hi Trouvere, I though that you might be interested. I just finished my fourth semester of Biblical Greek at a local bible college. Do you remember when we took it online together?