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Pelathais
That is at least the idea behind "the doctrine of the Eternal Son." They ("modern Trins") believe that Jesus (the Eternal Son) was eternally begotten of the Father. That is, the Eternal Son was begotten "before all worlds."
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Then it is just a matter of semantics between them and the Arians. Arians believe Jesus was begotten before the worlds. They believe he is the Creator of the worlds. God used him they say as the channel through which he worked.
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Pelathais
Many Trinitarians, however, believe that the "pre-Bethlehem" Jesus Christ wasn't "the Eternal Son," but rather, He was the Logos; the Word of God. It was the Logos that was "made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father" and not "the Eternal Son" (for which I cannot quote a verse).
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This is the true understanding of the Godhead. However Trins that hold this like Walter Martin although rejecting the doctrine of an eternal son believe that the Logos was a separate and distinct person from the Father. To me that still multiplies God and makes him more than one.