UPC Church School Expels Girl Who "Kissed a Girl"

[Sam]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

...Many many years ago when America Online (or AOL) was actually still popular, I used it to do the same thing as your friend -chase women, not send naked pics..

good old American custom .... chasing women and sending nekkid pictures.... even our athletes and politicians do it......

but I don't think we should have a nekkid picture thread on AFF

[houston]

Originally Posted by MarcBee

Que tienes mijo?

[kingdomapostle]

And what was this thread about????

Yeah, you had a hard time remembering too huh? Okay.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Sam

At the holiday season we are all gay

as we don our gay apparel
and troll the ancient Yuletide carol....

per the Christmas song fa la la la la

Please keep your paganistic prostituted "Christianity" to yourself.

[kingdomapostle]

That was really mean and very uncalled for. Wow.

[Admin]

Please refrain from personal attacks, maybe some of you need to read the forum rules. And try to keep to the subject and not promote unseemly behavior.

[houston]

Sam. I was jk. Good grief.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by houston

Sam. I was jk. Good grief.

your post about paganistic prostituted "Christianity" sounds like something I would post.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by NorCal

As I know Rev Fair fairly well (parents grew up with him) I can not comment on anything that is going on there. The article does not state how long the child was committing the acts, if the child was given the opportunity to change her actions, or if it was an "I See, I Ban" type of response.

The article is a very "This Happened" type article with no detailed facts. You know, one of those 11:00 drive by news stories. FYI The article is just a written form of a Evening News that was aired.

All this while the California State Government is passing bills making it a Mandate to teach on Homosexuals in school. Not in passing, but mandating that history teachers must teach on [people BECAUSE they are Homosexual, not because of what the person did that was significant.

I agree about how messed up California is. And, we can criticize the news story all we want, but the church and school themselves never spoke up. The "I See / I Ban" sort of impression is what pretty much everyone is left with.

Are saying that you know for a fact that this young lady was counseled before being given the boot? Do you have actual knowledge of just how the church handled this? Just because you know the folks involved, it doesn't necessarily mean that you can't comment. In fact, your comments might be the only ones available that might give us more clarity on just how this was handled.

On the brighter side... this whole thing might also be a tremendous catalyst for growth for the Private/Christian schools of California. People who object to having their children in a "homosexual leaning" environment (and who are probably the majority) could be given a clear alternative to the "state run" system - if the alternative was presented in a clear, thoughtful and loving manner without harsh condemnation.

Most people don't like the "gay thing." They don't hang around with gays and they work with gays only if the environment is professional and the "gay" stuff isn't thrown in their faces all the time. That being said, most of these people also don't hate gays. They certainly don't want to see homosexuals rounded up into camps or exterminated. It's sort of a live and let live kind of thing. "I'll be cool if they'll be cool."

We need to present ourselves in a manner that "we're cool" with people who don't see it our way. No need to be harsh. It's just that we do have some principles that we have chosen to follow and certain behavior is proscribed by those principles.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

I have a story. YEARS ago I was a Sunday School teacher of a Teen Girls class. These girls came from different backgrounds, and many of them were the first in their families to be saved. One young lady would walk to church, while her mother was at home abusing drugs. ...
And to think, THEY wanted me just to teach about David and Goliath. Well, we still have giants. THIS ONE is a HUGE GIANT that has to come down in the Name of Jesus.

I say, STAND FIRMLY in the faith, in love, and in truth. Balance is key.

That story really speaks to the kinds of harm that influences may cause. I say "may" because who knows how the "pastor's daughter" would have turned out or the girl who was "really curious." It may have been that these events were preordained and the outcomes completely out of your hands, no matter how you approached this.

I think that you were correct to sort of buck the system and delve into the topics of concern. You appear to have been the one on the front line there and the one best acquainted with the issues that the kids were dealing with.

My whole concern is that we don't create a generation that will hate us when we have it in our power to be kind and loving. Just think of the hate and vehement anger that spews from the more prominent "angry lesbians" in our society today. Those are the ones that I was talking about when I said I wanted to "take the wind out of their sails."