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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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Took someone like Hoovie with a farming background... 
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07-11-2011, 10:49 AM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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Nina can you explain why you think those two sentences refute each other? thanks
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"The knowledge that Jesus did have would have been normal human experiential knowledge, and [B] the exception to this would have been that knowledge which would have been supernaturally revealed to his mind through the operation of the Gifts of the Spirit. Jesus, as a man, was anointed by the Spirit, and that without measure ( Jn 3:34; Ac 10:38)."
If Jesus had the Spirit without measure, wouldn't He have known all things?
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07-11-2011, 11:09 AM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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"The knowledge that Jesus did have would have been normal human experiential knowledge, and [b] the exception to this would have been that knowledge which would have been supernaturally revealed to his mind through the operation of the Gifts of the Spirit. Jesus, as a man, was anointed by the Spirit, and that without measure ( Jn 3:34; Ac 10:38)."
If Jesus had the Spirit without measure, wouldn't He have known all things?
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No. We have the Spirit but we can't direct the Spirit as we will. Even if we were given the Spirit without measure the Spirit is still subject to the will of God not ours
In the same way, Jesus, submitting Himself to the Human qualities and having the role of being human submitted His will to the Divine will
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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07-11-2011, 11:41 AM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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No. We have the Spirit but we can't direct the Spirit as we will. Even if we were given the Spirit without measure the Spirit is still subject to the will of God not ours
In the same way, Jesus, submitting Himself to the Human qualities and having the role of being human submitted His will to the Divine will
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Are You saying that God limited the knowledge that He gave Jesus the man?
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07-11-2011, 11:49 AM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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Are You saying that God limited the knowledge that He gave Jesus the man?
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Yes. Jesus admitted to not knowing all things when he said only the Father knew the time of the Son's return
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-11-2011, 11:57 AM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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Took someone like Hoovie with a farming background... |
I suppose.
However, another unknown is that the hemp used in ropes and fabric is typically not the same stuff as what is sold on Main Street Loveland, CO.
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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I suppose.
However, another unknown is that the hemp used in ropes and fabric is typically not the same stuff as what is sold on Main Street Loveland, CO.
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I heard that hemp though is still illegal in some places?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-11-2011, 12:02 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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I heard that hemp though is still illegal in some places?
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My understanding was that the two are so closely related they can produce hybrids so the entire category is outlawed in the US.
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"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-11-2011, 12:06 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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My understanding was that the two are so closely related they can produce hybrids so the entire category is outlawed in the US.
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Yep still illegal in the US http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp
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"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-11-2011, 12:07 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
Sorry about the hemp diversion... now back to the Son not knowing his own return...
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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