What meaneth this.. - Page 2

riverslivnwtr · #11 07-12-2011, 05:01 PM

gifts and callings are without repentance...meaning they are never recalled..

Praxeas · #12 07-12-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by riverslivnwtr

gifts and callings are without repentance...meaning they are never recalled..

Yeah but what did that have to do with your thread about us being gods or anythign I posted?

Sam · #13 07-12-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

We have erred in the sense that we think Elohim always refers to the supreme being. YHWH is the most high Elohim but its not all that uncommon that it is used for others.

elohim can mean mighty ones who are human, or gods, or angels, or God.
How is one God plural?
Well, some think that means a compound unity of more than one person.
Some think that it is a collective noun like jury or team i.e. one jury or one team but more than one single iniviu==
Some think it is a "plural of majesty" term, that God is so much greater than any other single being so He is referred to in the plural form.

riverslivnwtr · #14 07-12-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

We are given the authority to do something in HIS name by HIS power

As for the gifts and callings of God, what is your point?

God gives us OF His Spirit. Not God gives us our own Divine Spirit

When God gives us something it is ours;
that is why he tries our hearts before and requires that we seek him with all our heart or whole heart..so that he would consume everything in us..leaving nothing but our soul ans him...making us one..

Praxeas · #15 07-12-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by riverslivnwtr

When God gives us something it is ours;
that is why he tries our hearts before and requires that we seek him with all our heart or whole heart..so that he would consume everything in us..leaving nothing but our soul ans him...making us one..

Again, ok, but what does that have to do with being gods and what I said? Second time I asked

riverslivnwtr · #16 07-12-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Again, ok, but what does that have to do with being gods and what I said? Second time I asked

again the scripture says ye are all gods,, and of course Jesus referred to it himself...

If God granted us this grace why do we act like we don't have it..

like it's not ours, like it don't belong to us..like it's a loan,

in fact Ephesians one says it's a surety or down payment..
the earnest of our inheritance..

Dedicated Mind · #17 07-12-2011, 07:08 PM

I think rivers is saying the gift of the hg is ours and that makes us divine. whether we are divine or not I can't say but we do have a position of greater authority than other humans if we are seated with christ in heavenly places and will judge angels in the age to come. I would say that people with the hg have a new nature and the divine nature of the hg within them. we are sons of God. so i kind of see the point of being gods.

Praxeas · #18 07-12-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by riverslivnwtr

again the scripture says ye are all gods,, and of course Jesus referred to it himself...

If God granted us this grace why do we act like we don't have it..

like it's not ours, like it don't belong to us..like it's a loan,

in fact Ephesians one says it's a surety or down payment..
the earnest of our inheritance..

I already explained what that verse means. You quickly changed the topic to some other verse though Im not sure why.

What does having grace to do with those judges being called gods? Who says we don't act like we have grace?

The bible never says we will become gods.

Praxeas · #19 07-12-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

I think rivers is saying the gift of the hg is ours and that makes us divine. whether we are divine or not I can't say but we do have a position of greater authority than other humans if we are seated with christ in heavenly places and will judge angels in the age to come. I would say that people with the hg have a new nature and the divine nature of the hg within them. we are sons of God. so i kind of see the point of being gods.

The bible says there is no god made before or after Yahweh.

We are not Divine. We are humans

We have a spirit nature but our spirit nature is our spirit not HIS Spirit.

If we are gods like that, then I want one of you all to fly off this planet to another, create plant animals and then create man in your own image...when you realize you can't then you will realize the Spirit of God is NOT the Spirit of Bob, John, Cheryl or any other human. It's HIS Spirit.

This person is confusing grace with Divine nature

Dedicated Mind · #20 07-12-2011, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

The bible says there is no god made before or after Yahweh.

We are not Divine. We are humans

We have a spirit nature but our spirit nature is our spirit not HIS Spirit.

If we are gods like that, then I want one of you all to fly off this planet to another, create plant animals and then create man in your own image...when you realize you can't then you will realize the Spirit of God is NOT the Spirit of Bob, John, Cheryl or any other human. It's HIS Spirit.

This person is confusing grace with Divine nature

i'm not saying we are gods, but can you concede that we have an elevated position relative to unsaved humans?