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[Chateau d'If]

Originally Posted by crakjak

The IP has substance and validity, my suggestion to those that are irritated by it: If the shoe fits, wear it, if not throw it away or give it to Goodwill!!!
LOL

It really is that simple. However, it's the nature of addicts to deny there is a problem.

Thank God for forums! Otherwise some folks wouldn't have a platform and there would be no opportunity to pastor posters.

:;

[MawMaw]

Originally Posted by crakjak

The IP has substance and validity, my suggestion to those that are irritated by it: If the shoe fits, wear it, if not throw it away or give it to Goodwill!!!
LOL

LOL~! My thoughts about this thread concur with yours.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Lacey

LOL~! My thoughts about this thread concur with yours.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If

I'm guessing some posters spend more time on the internet than they do with their family.

Probably true. *Some* posters. Also, there are people who spend more time playing golf than they spend with their family. That doesn't mean that every golfer has an addiction problem.

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I don't like this post. Just seems legalistic and the tone strikes me as self-righteous.

Just because you had a problem doesn't mean everyone struggles with that same sin.

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If

I must have struck a nerve. Four admins have posted on this thread.

Okay...#5. Members of Admin are individuals. I don't see how the fact that the posters on this thread are members of admin has any bearing on the striking of a nerve.

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If

I really don't see what is so offensive about the opening post.

Some people are way too touchy.

Well, it sort of stifles conversation if you throw out opinions that are based on an assumption about other folks' motives and habits. The first post feels like you're projecting. You seem to be taking things you have struggled with and assuming that other people (maybe in large numbers?) struggle in the same way. I actually don't spend a lot of time on the forum, although I have in the past. Even when I have a high post count, it's usually because I have my computer open at the table while I'm doing something else, and I run back and forth doing this or that. Last year I was laid up in bed with an injured back for 3-4 weeks, and so I posted a LOT during that time. It just depends on what I have to do, how much down time I have, etc. Posting is usually something I do when I'm bored and don't have much else to do.

I do agree that some people are addicted to having a platform, because no one IRL will listen to or pay attention to them, or maybe they don't feel the freedom to express those views IRL for other reasons. That's not something to look down on, though. I'm glad that forums like this give people outlets to vent or sort out their views or having a place to bounce ideas off of [fairly] likeminded individuals. In fact, as I think about it, I would probably fall into that category. Certainly I had never felt the freedom to express dissenting views or ideas about religious topics until I discovered the GNC and FCF. Not even with family. Or maybe especially not with family. I don't suppose I had a platform either, until I found that I could talk anonymously online. Pastors have a platform and by default a "captive audience" by nature of their position; people who aren't in a position of leadership don't really have the freedom or the audience needed to have a platform. Even though I'm a teacher at church, that's still not a "platform" because I have to express the views of the church; not my personal views. What's interesting about being able to express myself online is that I actually DO share my personal views and ideas with people IRL now, where in the past I would have been too intimidated to open my mouth.

Some folks no doubt spend too much time online. It's not my place to determine who does that, or worse, to assume their motives for doing so. I'm a multi-tasker, so even on days when I'm posting a lot, I'm also still: talking to my kids, cooking meals, teaching, taking time slots to go outside and work in my flower beds, reading, etc. I'm not the type of person to just sit and be on a forum and do nothing else for very long. I realize that some people do have to focus all their brain (and possibly body) power in one place, but I don't have to do that. Also, I can kick out a long post in a few minutes. Small comments take about 10 seconds. I really don't spend that much time on here or any other forum. I frequent three forums, and rarely post on the other two.

Regardless...my point is that you should ask people about their habits if you want to have a decent conversation rather than assuming that their habits match yours--or match the habits you had when your priorities were different.

[Chateau d'If]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Probably true. *Some* posters. Also, there are people who spend more time playing golf than they spend with their family. That doesn't mean that every golfer has an addiction problem.

Okay...#5. Members of Admin are individuals. I don't see how the fact that the posters on this thread are members of admin has any bearing on the striking of a nerve.

Well, it sort of stifles conversation if you throw out opinions that are based on an assumption about other folks' motives and habits. The first post feels like you're projecting. You seem to be taking things you have struggled with and assuming that other people (maybe in large numbers?) struggle in the same way. I actually don't spend a lot of time on the forum, although I have in the past. Even when I have a high post count, it's usually because I have my computer open at the table while I'm doing something else, and I run back and forth doing this or that. Last year I was laid up in bed with an injured back for 3-4 weeks, and so I posted a LOT during that time. It just depends on what I have to do, how much down time I have, etc. Posting is usually something I do when I'm bored and don't have much else to do.

I do agree that some people are addicted to having a platform, because no one IRL will listen to or pay attention to them, or maybe they don't feel the freedom to express those views IRL for other reasons. That's not something to look down on, though. I'm glad that forums like this give people outlets to vent or sort out their views or having a place to bounce ideas off of [fairly] likeminded individuals. In fact, as I think about it, I would probably fall into that category. Certainly I had never felt the freedom to express dissenting views or ideas about religious topics until I discovered the GNC and FCF. Not even with family. Or maybe especially not with family. I don't suppose I had a platform either, until I found that I could talk anonymously online. Pastors have a platform and by default a "captive audience" by nature of their position; people who aren't in a position of leadership don't really have the freedom or the audience needed to have a platform. Even though I'm a teacher at church, that's still not a "platform" because I have to express the views of the church; not my personal views. What's interesting about being able to express myself online is that I actually DO share my personal views and ideas with people IRL now, where in the past I would have been too intimidated to open my mouth.

Some folks no doubt spend too much time online. It's not my place to determine who does that, or worse, to assume their motives for doing so. I'm a multi-tasker, so even on days when I'm posting a lot, I'm also still: talking to my kids, cooking meals, teaching, taking time slots to go outside and work in my flower beds, reading, etc. I'm not the type of person to just sit and be on a forum and do nothing else for very long. I realize that some people do have to focus all their brain (and possibly body) power in one place, but I don't have to do that. Also, I can kick out a long post in a few minutes. Small comments take about 10 seconds. I really don't spend that much time on here or any other forum. I frequent three forums, and rarely post on the other two.

Regardless...my point is that you should ask people about their habits if you want to have a decent conversation rather than assuming that their habits match yours--or match the habits you had when your priorities were different.

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

SOME people need delivered from the forum debbil.

Somebody call an excorcist!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

SOME people need delivered from the forum debbil.

Somebody call an excorcist!

HA! Well, I've been awake since 7, and I was TRYING to sleep late, but that didn't happen because my brain is obviously set on waking me up before 10 a.m. I'm still sitting on my bed in my pajamas and Jeff just walked in and said, "Are you planning on getting dressed today?" "No...not until I absolutely have to."

This is the first time in about two weeks that I've had a free morning. The kids are all still asleep. We have company, and they're still asleep, too. *Bliss* I'm going to meander into the kitchen and have a cup of coffee and then a shower and then later today I plan to put my yard back together. We've had all the trim repainted, new shutters built, painted and installed, and the front door is now a pretty blue. HS was up a couple of weeks ago and put in a new deck. In the midst of all that, our yard has become a disaster area, so hopefully I can restore some order this evening and take some pictures of the new paint job/deck for fb. Jeff is going to Lowe's to pick up new light fixtures for the patio & porch, and insisted that I email him the SKU#. All I could find was the model/item #, so I guess he'll have to make do with that.

[Chateau d'If]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

HA! Well, I've been awake since 7, and I was TRYING to sleep late, but that didn't happen because my brain is obviously set on waking me up before 10 a.m. I'm still sitting on my bed in my pajamas and Jeff just walked in and said, "Are you planning on getting dressed today?" "No...not until I absolutely have to."

This is the first time in about two weeks that I've had a free morning. The kids are all still asleep. We have company, and they're still asleep, too. *Bliss* I'm going to meander into the kitchen and have a cup of coffee and then a shower and then later today I plan to put my yard back together. We've had all the trim repainted, new shutters built, painted and installed, and the front door is now a pretty blue. HS was up a couple of weeks ago and put in a new deck. In the midst of all that, our yard has become a disaster area, so hopefully I can restore some order this evening and take some pictures of the new paint job/deck for fb. Jeff is going to Lowe's to pick up new light fixtures for the patio & porch, and insisted that I email him the SKU#. All I could find was the model/item #, so I guess he'll have to make do with that.

You've just expressed the Spirit of Laodecia. This is worse than I originally thought. Call 2 excorcists!

[Hoovie]

Chateau welcome back!

Like the father who comes home from the evil world grumbling for the first hour or two, we know you mean well and really DO love the family!

[Chateau d'If]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Chateau welcome back!

Like the father who comes home from the evil world grumbling for the first hour or two, we know you mean well and really DO love the family!

Well, some of them anyway.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If

Well, some of them anyway.

Can I get you a drink?