BTW, because of a personal email I got, I feel the need to clarify that the things I have said on this thread have nothing to do with the thread or what is contained therein. These are my opinions based on my experiences and nothing else.
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BTW, because of a personal email I got, I feel the need to clarify that the things I have said on this thread have nothing to do with the thread or what is contained therein. These are my opinions based on my experiences and nothing else.
ILG, you were on target. No need to apologize.
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When we were Home Missionaries, we were treated terribly and were expected to give to EVERY department to prove we were "cooperating". Foreign Missionaries are held up high and Home Missionaries are the dung on the feet of the American Church. I know that's strong, it's just my opinion.
My Dad always complained about how home missionaries were treated; this isn't a new problem. And I have no bone to pick with this point. However, the fact that the home missions department of the UPCI has unresolved issues doesn't really have much to do with the sacrifices (which may be completely different in nature) that foreign missionaries make.
I am in complete agreement that home missionaries make sacrifices for their calling. They should be as "romanticized" as foreign missionaries, IMO. No one needs to tear down foreign missionaries to make that point. It's very hard to start a work from the ground up, whether at home or abroad. I think the difference is that foreign missionaries have to completely leave their homes and families and in some cases, pull up their children from their roots and be gone for a very long time. In some ways it can be an adventure; in other ways, it is a huge sacrifice--even with full financial support.
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My Dad always complained about how home missionaries were treated; this isn't a new problem. And I have no bone to pick with this point. However, the fact that the home missions department of the UPCI has unresolved issues doesn't really have much to do with the sacrifices (which may be completely different in nature) that foreign missionaries make.
I am in complete agreement that home missionaries make sacrifices for their calling. They should be as "romanticized" as foreign missionaries, IMO. No one needs to tear down foreign missionaries to make that point. It's very hard to start a work from the ground up, whether at home or abroad. I think the difference is that foreign missionaries have to completely leave their homes and families and in some cases, pull up their children from their roots and be gone for a very long time. In some ways it can be an adventure; in other ways, it is a huge sacrifice--even with full financial support.
Like I said, my post has nothing to do with this thread, really so I am not arguing for or against what is contained in it. I was just giving my opinion as someone who experienced Home Missions first hand.
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
If this thread is about Sis. A, and I'm not going to read the whole thread to find out, Sis. A is one of my favorites on here. She has only been very kind to me.
Foreign Missions is romanticized. That is a fact. Home Missionaries are treated badly. That is also a fact.
I think I'm going to extract myself from whatever is happening here now.
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
If this thread is about Sis. A, and I'm not going to read the whole thread to find out, Sis. A is one of my favorites on here. She has only been very kind to me.
Foreign Missions is romanticized. That is a fact. Home Missionaries are treated badly. That is also a fact.
I think I'm going to extract myself from whatever is happening here now.
Something can be a fact, but not a universal fact. Is Foreign Missions overly romanticized by some? Perhaps. Are Home Missionaries treated badly by some? I would have to say yes. This still does not warrant blanket statements that would suggest that these are universal facts and truths. I think we have to be very careful to not project our experiences and resulting perspectives on everybody else.
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Something can be a fact, but not a universal fact. Is Foreign Missions overly romanticized by some? Perhaps. Are Home Missionaries treated badly by some? I would have to say yes. This still does not warrant blanket statements that would suggest that these are universal facts and truths. I think we have to be very careful to not project our experiences and resulting perspectives on everybody else.
Exactly!
Thanks for a reasonable post on the matter.
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You know this may seem strange but these little home missions churches have always been so good to share... May God give them all a very special blessing in Jesus Name.
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