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Old 07-28-2011, 04:32 PM
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The Heathen in the Jungle vs The Investment Banker

All of the hoopla the past few days has brought up some interesting questions. Questions that I’ve often thought about.

I myself have often wondered if foreign missions are more valid than the mission field we all have in our own backyard. Yes, we are to go and spread the gospel all over the world. But is someone witnessing in Africa doing a more “spiritual” thing, a better work, than someone witnessing in New York City?

In light of the discussions we’ve had the past few days, I thought this article was timely and interesting.


A few excerpts, from http://thecripplegate.com/the-new-as...ment-bankers/:


"Even with all the good that has come from this, I do have a basic concern. I’m afraid we may be misunderstanding the Gospel in all this. If we assume the disadvantaged in our inner cities (or third world countries) need the Gospel more desperately than the privileged on their boundaries, than indeed we have. For certain, it denies man’s real need and judges by externals only. After all, humanitarianism is a means to an end. The end is the proclamation of the love of God in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.


What if a man wearing a tie entered your church along side a man in rags? Honestly now? Who would you assume needed the Gospel more? To whom would your heart go out? Our instinct here is evidence of our failure to maintain Gospel fidelity. Our hearts should go out to both. Not weeping over the businessman in the same way you do the poor man is an insult to the Gospel. To provide the homeless man with bread only is not the full extent of Christian love. Neither is assuming the man in the tie is less destitute as the man in need of bread.

The upper middle classes of the suburbs still need the Gospel. Desperately, in fact.


So, who’s going to reach the affluent with the Gospel? Who’s going to bravely venture out into the wilderness of capitalism and reach those who have been trapped by its power? Who’s going to trek out into religiously dense suburbs and assume the worst among the people who look the best? The church still needs successful businessmen and wealthy executives who can infiltrate the upper echelons of the corporate world with the good news of Christ. And investment bankers who can speak deliverance into the context of greed. We still need salesmen whose business trips look more like mission trips. The church still needs missional soccer moms."

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Just because someone has no shoes and lives in a grass hut, does that make their need of God greater than the man who lives in a 3-bedroom brick home and drives a Suburban?

Thoughts?


(note – this thread is not about the Alvears in ANY way. I will not participate in any conversation that is insulting to them, and don't want this thread to be about persons or personalities, just an objective discussion of this subject)
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Old 07-28-2011, 04:37 PM
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Re: The Heathen in the Jungle vs The Investment Ba

I think, a case could be made that it's not just us who direct our ministries to the underprivelged and the poor. Was that not a special concern in Christ's ministry?
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In very real terms, we need to evangelize the affluent in order to have the means to reach the poor.
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We should follow the example left to us by Jesus and his followers.
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We should follow the example left to us by Jesus and his followers.
Pretty much whosoever will. I do think it's true, that very often those who are rich and/or lead luxurious lives have greater difficulty in assessing their need of a Savior.
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If we were more like the early church we would have similar results.

There must have been rich believers since many of them sold possessions of lands and houses and gave the monies to the church to distribute to those in need.
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Which was?
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The ones who are sent, preached the word in synagogues, the market places, by the riversides, iow, where ever they went they shared the gospel. The thing that caused them to turn the world upside down were the signs that followed and confirmed the word they preached and the lives that they lived. Paul spoke the word of God with power and that power is what Paul said the disciples faith would rest on. 1 Cor 2:5, 1 Cor 4:20

If you aren't sent out like Paul and Barnabas were then you stayed home and witnessed to those around you, family, friends, relatives, neighbors, coworkers, etc. They witnessed to the poor and the rich, slave and free. The key was to live a life as a follower of Jesus according to the example he set.
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