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07-29-2011, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
The way I see it, that may actually be good news!
In spite of a so-called WPF split, and other seemingly regular departures spawned by anti-standards ministers, and the economic hit (in 08, and 09) the UPC continues to grow.
No doubt this is more groweth than many denominations have experienced in recent decades.
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Tiny growth, but growth nonetheless.
I wonder how much the population of North America grew between 2000-2010.
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07-29-2011, 03:42 PM
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Re: Why do We Romanticize Foreign Missions?
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Tiny growth, but growth nonetheless.
I wonder how much the population of North America grew between 2000-2010.
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2000 USA Population: 281,424,602
2010 USA Population: 308,745,538
9.7% Increase in population.
Data from the United States Census Bureau.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-29-2011, 04:47 PM
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Re: Why do We Romanticize Foreign Missions?
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Originally Posted by CC1
2000 USA Population: 281,424,602
2010 USA Population: 308,745,538
9.7% Increase in population.
Data from the United States Census Bureau.
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I know they did not keep pace with the population growth (mostly due to immigration btw)
The point is, MOST denominations are declining right now.
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07-29-2011, 05:44 PM
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Re: Why do We Romanticize Foreign Missions?
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
I know they did not keep pace with the population growth (mostly due to immigration btw)
The point is, MOST denominations are declining right now.
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I wasn't trying to counter your point. I was only providing concrete populations data so we could place any discussion of growth in context. You are very correct that any growth during this period where church attendance is down dramatically overall is good.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-29-2011, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
2000 USA Population: 281,424,602
2010 USA Population: 308,745,538
9.7% Increase in population.
Data from the United States Census Bureau.
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You have to include the population of Canada as well.
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07-29-2011, 06:20 PM
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Re: Why do We Romanticize Foreign Missions?
I know there are churches in the US that are not qualified for Home Missions. They are barely keeping the doors open.
But does that mean that we should change our Foreign Missions policies?
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07-29-2011, 06:30 PM
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Re: Why do We Romanticize Foreign Missions?
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Originally Posted by Charnock
You have to include the population of Canada as well.
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Canada has a population????? LOL!!!! 
(you are correct)
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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