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Old 07-29-2011, 07:24 PM
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It is wonderful that God touched him and he recovered from whatever happened. I just wonder why Pentecostal folks are so enamored with the supernatural that they seem to always make situations the extreme of what it could possibly be.

It is a great story of God's touch with it just being that he was unconscious and was healed. That is not good enough for a lot of people though and by the time this gets told a few times it will be a four doctors, ten nurses, an undertaker, and EMT crew all declaring him dead for an hour.

In any case I am glad he is fine.
Well I think some, (not all) Pentecostal folks seek credibility and evidence, ironically, that what they have and practice is legit and beyond refutation.

Many claims are made, even routinely, about OP/Apostolics being the apple of God's eye, so it helps when we can lay claim to something irrefutable... Unfortunately, sometimes the claims themselves become the Achilles Heel...
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BTW, there was a little girl healed of brain cancer after the elders at our church prayed for her. But because it is a baptist church none of my pentecostal family believes it.
Is that healed after surgery/treatment or a real miracle healing? I have no prob with any human on earth can receive a miracle.
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Very interesting... having responded to over a thousand medical emergencies as an EMT I still have a few normal questions.

What happened? How long did he feel faint or lightheaded? Was he exerting himself prior to collapse? When was the last time he ate? What was it? How much water did he drink today? Was he sweating? What time was it when you could not find a pulse? Did CPR begin immediately, and continue until just now? Who pronounced him dead?

These are normal questions, among others, which might give clue to the the event and why it occurred.

If someone thinks I am trying to discredit anything - they are simply wrong. Quite the opposite is true actually.

By answering these questions we can help substantiate the cause of purported death and subsequent claims of supernatural intervention, or otherwise give thanks to God for His goodness toward his servant and minister.
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Is that healed after surgery/treatment or a real miracle healing? I have no prob with any human on earth can receive a miracle.
my old church of God we had a foot washing for a man that had cancer. and it was Gone and confirmed by the doctors with surgery.

Doc was like there is no cancer, couldnt believe it. met the preach comming out of the elevator to tell him the news.
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It is wonderful that God touched him and he recovered from whatever happened. I just wonder why Pentecostal folks are so enamored with the supernatural that they seem to always make situations the extreme of what it could possibly be.

It is a great story of God's touch with it just being that he was unconscious and was healed. That is not good enough for a lot of people though and by the time this gets told a few times it will be a four doctors, ten nurses, an undertaker, and EMT crew all declaring him dead for an hour.

In any case I am glad he is fine.
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Leaders always seem to gain credibility with their "sheep" when it appears that God chooses to heal them (after killing them of course) in some miraculous manner.

Wasn't LS "dead" for quite some time before God chose to resurrect him?
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Well I think some, (not all) Pentecostal folks seek credibility and evidence, ironically, that what they have and practice is legit and beyond refutation.

Many claims are made, even routinely, about OP/Apostolics being the apple of God's eye, so it helps when we can lay claim to something irrefutable... Unfortunately, sometimes the claims themselves become the Achilles Heel...
It's also a matter of the Bible saying "greater things than these shall they do". A lot of miracles happened in Acts, and so people really, really want these things to happen today. I think it's an honest desire, but it does cause a lot of hype. Not saying this instance was hype, I wasn't there.... but there are a lot of exaggerated stories going around just because people want signs and wonders to happen.
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It's also a matter of the Bible saying "greater things than these shall they do". A lot of miracles happened in Acts, and so people really, really want these things to happen today. I think it's an honest desire, but it does cause a lot of hype. Not saying this instance was hype, I wasn't there.... but there are a lot of exaggerated stories going around just because people want signs and wonders to happen.
Another example of how error in interpretation leads to error in practice.
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