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Old 08-02-2011, 03:36 AM
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Re: What is a "Move of God"? Is it Bible or Cultur

When I shut up heaven and there is no rain, or command the locusts to devour the land, or send pestilence among My people, if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land. (2 Chronicles 7:13-14 NKJV)

The boldened parts are mine emphasis added. This is how God has ordained the move of God to be.
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:32 AM
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We're getting clean off the subject. Of course God is always moving, the bible states that all things consist in Him.

People can cause the spirit of the Lord to manifest itself among people either in a community, world, or in a small church. The bible states that the Spirit of the Lord inhabits the praise of his people.

If we as believers want to see a move of God among people then we must commit ourselves to prayer and fasting and God will hear from heaven and pour out a blessing. I would call that moving.

It just seems there are numerous people who don't like certain terminologies among what is recognized as fanatical believers. Never the less these things are so and they do exists and have existed for centuries and will continue to be in operation whether we agree or disagree on how they are to be what they are.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:46 AM
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Re: What is a "Move of God"? Is it Bible or Cultur

So in our thirst for a sovereign move of God, we cast away the idea that a sovereign move of God can and often does involve rejoicing, praising, and worshipping?


A "move of God" can include rejoicing, praising, and dancing.

A "move of God" can include manifest brokeness and contrition.


The giving of the Great Commission in Matthew 28:19 was a move of God.


The Day of Pentecost and subsequent sermon was a move of God. The addition of the 3,000 believers after that same sermon was a move of God.

The repentance of the Phillipian jailer was a move of God.

The signs that Simon the sorcerer saw when the new Christian believers were being filled with the Holy Spirit were the "moves of God."

The calling out of Simon the sorcerer was a move of God.



Why does there seem to be a push by some on this forum to reject demonstrative and emotional praise and worship as something that is other than of God?

Why would we want to forsake such an awesome and biblical privilege-- experiencing the moving of God in and through our praise and worship?
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:19 AM
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Re: What is a "Move of God"? Is it Bible or Cultur

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When I shut up heaven and there is no rain, or command the locusts to devour the land, or send pestilence among My people, if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land. (2 Chronicles 7:13-14 NKJV)

The boldened parts are mine emphasis added. This is how God has ordained the move of God to be.
I'm so beside myself. Over six months with the Baptists and I'm discovering so much about Apostolics that I didn't see when I was strictly associating with those in the Apostolic movement.

Look guys... God is sovereign. That means that God can choose to move anytime He wishes. Yes, God may require repentance in a given context. In another, He might simply move without an invitation.

Why can't y'all get that one??? It's like you guys see God in categorical classifications that characterize Him as static and only doing things one way or another. One DEMANDS we have a list of things we must do for a move. Another states we must not do anything.

Truth is... God is a living and sovereign God. He can require anything He desires for a given move... or He can choose to move in spite of us. Sovereign means He can do as He chooses.

Don't you guys know Him???
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:24 AM
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Think of it this way too... you could confess and repent of all known sin.... jump up and down with all your might screaming praise choruses.... wear whatever extreme in modesty you feel you must.... and God still now show.

God isn't at our beck and call. God is... God. He does as He desires.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:04 AM
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:14 AM
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My idea of a move of God, is an event commonly recognized by a whole body of believers as an act of God in their midst.. it may begin with one person ans spread through a whole congregation and beyond....




this is a move of God..:



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Old 08-02-2011, 11:40 AM
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The BIG problem with "God Moving" in emotionally based Faith; EMOTION. The Apostolic Movement has attracted the emotionally distraught and even downright crazy people, and this has led to false and completely bogus claims of God's Spirit "Moving".

Just look at speaking in tongues. We claim, after severe pressure, over-bearing music, back rubbing, and even extreme fits (rolling on the floor, shaking, jerking), that someone had God "Move on them" after uttering a few indiscernible words.

My son-in-law is home sick with gout in his leg and foot. Some people from an Apostolic Church stopped by to pray for him last night. They came into the house and began praying for him, everyone blowing air on his foot. Then, they demanded he get up and walk on it, 3 times, and reluctantly he did. (He is still home sick, today)

When will this nonsense stop? We are manipulating people by declaring that God is moving in these Religious incantations that rouse superstition, fear, and doubt.
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:46 PM
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The BIG problem with "God Moving" in emotionally based Faith; EMOTION. The Apostolic Movement has attracted the emotionally distraught and even downright crazy people, and this has led to false and completely bogus claims of God's Spirit "Moving".

Just look at speaking in tongues. We claim, after severe pressure, over-bearing music, back rubbing, and even extreme fits (rolling on the floor, shaking, jerking), that someone had God "Move on them" after uttering a few indiscernible words.

My son-in-law is home sick with gout in his leg and foot. Some people from an Apostolic Church stopped by to pray for him last night. They came into the house and began praying for him, everyone blowing air on his foot. Then, they demanded he get up and walk on it, 3 times, and reluctantly he did. (He is still home sick, today)

When will this nonsense stop? We are manipulating people by declaring that God is moving in these Religious incantations that rouse superstition, fear, and doubt.
That is a broad term when you state apostolics attract only crazy people and such and is a false message to those who come in. I guess we could go back and take a good look at the founders of the true church, people such as ruff and tuff Simon Peter who was so emontional he cut the ear off of a soldier. They would put us in prison for that today.
Or we could view Paul who consented to the deaths of women, men, and children in the name of God without any emontion.
Or better yet, lets look at Jesus. He went into the temple, or I should say, Holy Temple, and threw a fit. He upset the tables, knocked over stands, and beat people with a wip made out of platted rope. That kind of behavior just would not be tolerated today, and who, would go to a church with a pastor like that?
As long as mankind has a soul area within him there will always be emontions. God does move through people, I have seen it in my own life toward the lives of others.
Years ago a three year old boy was run over by a motor vehicle. The car stopped right on top of him. By the time rescue got there and moved the vehicle, the child had third degree burns all over his back and shoulders. The child belonged to a friend of mine, someone who just gave his life to the Lord Jesus just weeks before.
I was disturbed that such a thing could have happen. Moved with compassion for this family, I went before the Lord Jesus in prayer. Durng that time he spoke to me and told me to go to the hospital and that's all he said.
I went and there was the parents and friends. They were happy to see me but they were in deep dispair. I didn't know what to do or say outside of the general things that we would normally say.
I asked if I could see the child and they said yes. They called the nurse to make sure it was ok. The nurse came and said I'll go with him. Once in the darkened room the spirit of the Lord move upon me and the lord said, tell the nurse to leave. I turned and asked, May I pray for the child alone? She said of course.
The next day the doctor could not figure out what had happened. He said the child's recovery and healing of the tissue was remarkable and didn't make any senese to him. Two days later the child was released and never even showed any signs or scars.
Jesus does move in the person of the Holy Ghost and I hope no one puts him to the test because of unbelief.
And if a man could tear out his soul then he would rid himself of that emontion.
To be human is to fail in the eyes of others, even when we think we are at our best in the Lord.
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i like your post Austin
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