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Old 08-02-2011, 06:24 PM
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Re: Firstborn (some references:)

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BTW who was born first? Esau or Jacob (Israel)?

Ishmael or Isaac?
we see a ever present reality, abel (second) over cain. Isaac(second) over ishmael
jacob (second) over esau -> which is nations, (jacob was never ove his brother, but the nation of israel was over edom)

Jesus (second and last adam) over adam(first)
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