Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church? - Page 19

Truthseeker · #**181** 08-07-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Well...You said it was not there and it is there and didn't JESUS CHRIST use the word TITHE? LOL Go research TITHE in the NT and let us know how many times the word is used!
You clowns need to go join the rodeo or a circus with your goofy act!

Where did I say word was not in NT? Might. Got be me mixed uo with someone else.

From what I remember tithes is used in three places in NT with two times attaching it the law and third time to self righteous keeper of the law.

ThePastorsCoach · #**182** 08-07-2011, 05:09 PM

WRONG AGAIN! Try six times and here you go - with your WRONG interpretation. Why do you guys insist on teaching this ANTI-TITHE false doctrine when you can't even count the times the word is in the New Testament. LOL Par for the course!
You say Tithe is not in the New Testament then you say it is and that It was not YOU that said it and that it was only in there 3 times (as far as you can remember) and then you give us your interpretation. What makes YOU an expert on this?
We do not want your interpretation or your commentary on Tithe. We just want BIBLE. Just show us in the HOLY BIBLE that TITHE is not in there and we will adjust our theology.
Could you let us know if you actually graduated from High School and what college, university or theological seminary you graduated from and what degrees you earned.
Thank you!

UnTraditional · #**183** 08-07-2011, 05:34 PM

You know, AB, the problem I have with those who attack the non-tithers is the fact that when it comes to giving, we give freely, generously, and without hesitation. I could not do that while I tithed. While you call people like me crooks and robbers, how would you feel if we turned around and called you a Roman Catholic, a liar against the Word, and a blatant fraud for teaching and unscriptural doctrine? If would not be right for us to do so, so why would it be right for you to call us names? It makes no sense, that if your doctrine is so weak you have to resort to name calling, maybe instead you should re-evaluate your doctrine.

I have respect for every preacher of the Gospel I know. I do not agree with some of their doctrines. But, when it comes to the issue of the tithe, I find so much antichrist anger that spews forth from some pastors that it becomes unprofitable to discuss the matter with them. Yes, their arguments could be discussed, but not in the spirit some show.

I have said it before, and I say it again, that the tithe doctrine that is taught by the majority of churches and pastors is a lie, unscriptural, and unbiblical. It contradicts the very nature of the New Covenant, the very finished work of Christ, and puts the believers in enslavement and entrapment, causing some to be put out of congregations for not tithing. How graceful is that?!

I support missions. I give to my local church. Do I give a tithe? Absolutely not, because the tenth was reserved for agricultural, not for everyone. But, I do give freely. And, with all due respect AB, the fact is, the way you have handled yourself in this latter part of this discussion betrays your spiritual reputation as a Bishop.

How about we all cool down, and ask the admins to lock this thread for some time, until cooler heads prevail, and let us all pray for repentance in ourselves towards our brethren for the ungodly attitude we have shown here. And, let me be the first, that if in my defense of my beliefs I have shown an ungodly spirit, please forgive me.

Truthseeker · #**184** 08-07-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

WRONG AGAIN! Try six times and here you go - with your WRONG interpretation. Why do you guys insist on teaching this ANTI-TITHE false doctrine when you can't even count the times the word is in the New Testament. LOL Par for the course!
You say Tithe is not in the New Testament then you say it is and that It was not YOU that said it and that it was only in there 3 times (as far as you can remember) and then you give us your interpretation. What makes YOU an expert on this?
We do not want your interpretation or your commentary on Tithe. We just want BIBLE. Just show us in the HOLY BIBLE that TITHE is not in there and we will adjust our theology.
Could you let us know if you actually graduated from High School and what college, university or theological seminary you graduated from and what degrees you earned.
Thank you!

Once again where did I say word tithes was not in NT? Please show me.

If notice I didn't say tithes was in NT three time but in three places where the word was used. Either way doesn't change it was assiociate with the law when it is mentioned.

ThePastorsCoach · #**185** 08-07-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

WRONG AGAIN! Try six times and here you go - with your WRONG interpretation. Why do you guys insist on teaching this ANTI-TITHE false doctrine when you can't even count the times the word is in the New Testament. LOL Par for the course!
You say Tithe is not in the New Testament then you say it is and that It was not YOU that said it and that it was only in there 3 times (as far as you can remember) and then you give us your interpretation. What makes YOU an expert on this?
We do not want your interpretation or your commentary on Tithe. We just want BIBLE. Just show us in the HOLY BIBLE that TITHE is not in there and we will adjust our theology.
Could you let us know if you actually graduated from High School and what college, university or theological seminary you graduated from and what degrees you earned.
Thank you!

Now tell us where the Bible says Thou shalt not Tithe or that the Tithe is a

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"lie, unscriptural, and unbiblical. It contradicts the very nature of the New Covenant, the very finished work of Christ, and puts the believers in enslavement and entrapment,"

I have read the Word of God all my life and have just never found that in the Bible I read.
For you to say that

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"antichrist anger that spews forth from some pastors"

is a mighty strong statement from someone who cannot show ONE scripture where the Tithe was done away with. Calling Pastors - "ANTI-CHRIST" because they preach Tithe is really unbelievable.

The fact is - The Tithe is Holy, Scriptural, Truth, Old Testament, New Testament and I have heard THOUSANDS of testimonies of those who TITHE and God has blessed them.
If you don't want to Tithe - I could care less but when you try to say it is a lie and you deceive people with this heretical doctrine - you are WRONG!
You guys got on here to challenge the TITHERS and now you are back peddling and cannot produce one scripture that says DO NOT TITHE or Thou Shalt Not Tithe or The Tithe is not valid or abolished.
You can't do it and now you make personal attacks against my ministry and criticize me because I am a Bishop and I am passionate about the Word of God and refuse to back down to your false and damnable doctrine whereby you are DECEIVED!

You were wrong when you started preaching this false doctrine and you are wrong now! You guys started this challenge mess so - now you want to go crying to the Admins to lock it up because of how you look now! LOL

I am a TITHER and am blessed and highly favored because of it!

UnTraditional · #**186** 08-07-2011, 07:18 PM

If this attitude is how you discuss the issue, I shall depart before my flesh rises up. You have made it clear that you are willing to attack and munch instead of discuss. So be it. I depart, but I leave you with this, that every idle words spoken shall be given account for, including name calling and lies. So, sir, adieu to you, this bad spirit, and this conversation.

shag · #**187** 08-07-2011, 07:32 PM

AB, while I realize you're just on here to stir things and ruffle feathers, and are having fun success doing just that, I wonder if you would be so kind as to explain using scripture, the following 4 questions:

1.) Who all needs to participate in rendering of "the tithe"?

2.) what all exactly do they need to use as a tithe?

3.) who all receives tithes?

4.) what is the purpose of the tithes?

Again, using scripture....
Thank you

ThePastorsCoach · #**188** 08-07-2011, 07:36 PM

Another one bites the dust! False doctrine shall not prevail! The Truth will make you free!

These guys made a challenge and then cannot stand it that they were cornered with TRUTH and now they cower down and accuse me of having a bad spirit because their deception is uncovered! I will ALWAYS attack false doctrine when it is coming from the mouth of a supposed "Apostolic" that knows better.
Anyone with any sense at all knows that Tithe is a Bible Doctrine!
I have NEVER missed a Tithe in my life and NOBODY is going to rob me of my blessing and convince me to stop tithing! The TITHE is HOLY unto the Lord!
TRUTH WINS AGAIN! Praise The Lord!

UnTraditional · #**189** 08-07-2011, 07:42 PM

I know I said that I would say adieu, but let me close with this, before shutting down my system for the night. I would never, ever sit under AB's ministry. I have suffered as much condemnation under Reckart and Winter as this man has shown in this thread. His spirit is uncalled for, and shows no godliness in his conversation. And, just like the legalist he is showing himself to be, he is declaring victory when in fact as he has done is ruffled feathers, lied like a politician, and made a mockery of being called a Bishop.

With this, I leave this forum. I have no need for this spirit.

shag · #**190** 08-07-2011, 07:44 PM

AB,

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crazy!