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Old 08-09-2011, 08:44 AM
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Re: Why I'm Against Perry

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4No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

5And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.


How does Obama contrast with this scripture?

Obama brought no business skill to the office

And where was the skill of Bush, didn't he have a ball team, and nothing to help people......President Obama did have skills, he was a Senator, he did help a lot of people in IL.

Obama brought no military skill to the office but is still allowing soldiers to be killed

And where was the military skill of Bush,...Bush is the one that got us in a war, not President Obama.....Where have you been?

Obama brought no faith which gives the slightest hint of praise for the creator referenced in the founding documents.
Where in the world did you get that? Where was the faith that Bush gave? Only lies was given out of the mouth of Bush. Remember when the tea party came in and wanted to read the founding documents, they left pages out.
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:40 AM
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Where in the world did you get that? Where was the faith that Bush gave? Only lies was given out of the mouth of Bush. Remember when the tea party came in and wanted to read the founding documents, they left pages out.
President Bush ran an oil company in tough times. Harken.

Read Bush's book. It says some things your vulgar left wing daily Kos etc won't tell you.

His dad partnered with a friend of my grandad in starting Zapata drilling. RG Le Tourneau who built the rigs.

Lot of Obama's "business" pals in chicago are relocated and in jail.
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Old 08-09-2011, 10:13 AM
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Where in the world did you get that? Where was the faith that Bush gave? Only lies was given out of the mouth of Bush. Remember when the tea party came in and wanted to read the founding documents, they left pages out.
SHE'S ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure if your timing is good to make a valiant return what with the things the way they are looking right now.

But we always enjoy your worthless banter.
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Old 08-09-2011, 10:25 AM
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hey seascapes have you repented for your racists views on marriage?
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:29 PM
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Pel, I agree with you that politicians are called in their vocation, but how can a true christian who cares for spreading the gospel, the poor etc, be a politician who owes their allegiance to campaign contributors? wouldn't we see the kingdom of God on earth if politicians were true christians? what did we get with Bush? 2 unpaid wars, tax breaks for the rich, where were his christian values?
Regarding the "unpaid wars," why stop there? EVERYTHING we have or do as a nation is "unpaid." We haven't paid the bills since the Eisenhower administration and his Republican House & Senate.

And, his "tax breaks for the rich" included guys like you and me... pretty sweet to be "rich," isn't it?

... but, be that as it may...

The question of a Christian ruler is a hard one. It always has been a difficult subject. The New Testament was written at a time when the human writers all thought the world was about to end and that this particular question would simply never come up.

So, we have very little direct NT teaching on this and we must extrapolate from the rulers in the OT. We can also apply the NT teachings.

As far as "seeing the Kingdom of God on earth" ... why don't we see anything like that in the church where the "true Christians" are? ... oh yeah, I remember the answer.
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:35 PM
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as a percentage, they don't pay more taxes than anyone.
Uh, dude!

I'll break it to you gently... "As a percentage" the wealthy pay an extraordinarily larger share of the taxes than "the poor."

The bottom 40% of wage earners pay not taxes at all.

The top 10% of earners pay 71% of all taxes.

http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartb...income-earners
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:41 PM
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I would further suggest that if we are going to go with the notion that we should not vote for christians running for high office, we should not vote either because it is equal to the passage quoted... if we are going to go with this as the meaning of the passage.
I really don't think DM has thought much of this through.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:08 AM
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Uh, dude!

I'll break it to you gently... "As a percentage" the wealthy pay an extraordinarily larger share of the taxes than "the poor."

The bottom 40% of wage earners pay not taxes at all.

The top 10% of earners pay 71% of all taxes.

http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartb...income-earners
Top earners are the target for new tax increases, but the U.S. tax system is already highly progressive. The top 1 percent of income earners paid 38 percent of all federal income taxes in 2008, while the bottom 50 percent paid only 3 percent. Forty-nine percent of U.S. households paid no federal income tax at all.

Now is that "fair"?
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:07 AM
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Top earners are the target for new tax increases, but the U.S. tax system is already highly progressive. The top 1 percent of income earners paid 38 percent of all federal income taxes in 2008, while the bottom 50 percent paid only 3 percent. Forty-nine percent of U.S. households paid no federal income tax at all.

Now is that "fair"?
In a sense, no. It's not fair at all. However, those in the top brackets have traditionally accepted a greater burden as part of their sense of community and devotion to duty.

That's one thing that really grates me about Obama's class warfare. It completely ignores the self sacrifice and the very willing contributions of so may good American people. These guys could all move their money to Fiji like the Kennedy clan did years ago to avoid paying taxes on their Big Oil trust funds. Instead, they are a part of our communities and they shoulder a disproportionate load - willingly.

Sure, there are crooks like Bernie Madoff and that ilk. For whatever reason, like Madoff, these crooks tend to be big contributors to the DNC and other Liberal causes, but I won't bring that up here.

I say, let "the rich" keep more of their money. That way I have a better chance at some of it. If the rich guys in town are fat and loaded, then I can offer to sell them goods and services to help them further their ambitions. That means more money in the coffers of small businesses and "little guys" like me.

If the government takes their money, it will just sink into a black hole of corruption, inefficiency and waste. Much of it will be used to grease the palms of the supporters of those who favor the redistribution and it will eventually end up right in the campaign funds of the guys who created this mess to begin with so that we can do it all over again.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:46 AM
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My niece posted this yesterday - "I think Rick Perry is gonna' win it all. He's such a character. Plus, he shot a coyote while jogging. Finally, someone made jogging cool."

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