History of rings

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

not my style

but im sure someone else could...

and i suppose you can get whatever you want out of it...seems like plenty of ppl do that with the Bible :-)

one of my former mentors went over board with the rings and stuff like you do, in the end i seperated from him. you have to be careful and this may not be you, but he was more concerned about the external look of the person.

I still have his notes, but the same thing i told him still applies, the only thing that makes something pagen is the person calling it pagen.

[houston]

kc, do you celebrate christmas?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Dagwood

Now that we've earned our PhD on the origins and history of the "band," what should we take away from this, KClee?

Your next thread needs to be something about the things that will send one to hell because of their pagan/trinitarian/etc origins...

That wasn't really the history of rings or "bands." It was a polemic intended to persuade readers to adopt the writer's view point. It was also designed to appeal to just one specific audience - non-Trinitarians. It completely ignores the real history behind these emblems.

The ring is of course a circle and this was the symbol of eternity for the Egyptians as well as many other ancient cultures. It had no beginning and no end, like time. It returned to itself, like life; and the shape was worshipped in the form of the Sun and the Moon. The hole in the center of the ring is not just space either; it is important in its own right as the symbol of the gateway, or door; leading to things and events both known and unknown.

It is not difficult therefore, to see how the ring and the gift of a ring began to be associated with love, in the hope that this most worthy of emotions could take on the characteristics of the circle and capture eternity.

They wore it like we do today, on the third finger of the left hand, because of a belief that the vein of that finger directly traveled from the heart. This legend was later taken up by the Greeks, when they conquered Egypt under the generalship of Alexander the Great in 332 B.C. and from them passed onto the Romans, who called this the ‘vena amoris’, which is Latin for ‘the vein of love’.

http://www.thehistoryof.net/history-...ding-ring.html

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by pelathais

That wasn't really the history of rings or "bands." It was a polemic intended to persuade readers to adopt the writer's view point. It was also designed to appeal to just one specific audience - non-Trinitarians. It completely ignores the real history behind these emblems.

do you celebrate the ring like the egyptians do?

[johnny44]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

We are going in circles here. You are not seeing my point.
Anyhow, we are in this world but not of this world.
If I change my use of the words Monday and Tuesday, etc. Will you then say that I am consistent and that a wedding ring is a sin, or did you just use that as a decoy because you are stumped and don't know how to combat the issue?

Church I use to attend would use first day, second day of the week,etc,etc ,etc.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by acerrak

do you celebrate the ring like the egyptians do?

I didn't get the idea that the ancient Egyptians were "celebrating the ring." It seemed to me that they saw it as a symbol of eternity and associated this ideal with "eternal love" between spouses and spouses-to-be.

Do you believe in lasting heterosexual marriages? If not, why not?

As for rings, I don't wear any metal because when I do I can actually taste the metal in my mouth. I know that sounds odd, but there is actually a medical explanation for this. My wife wears a simple wedding band as it is her preference to do so.

The only shortcomings with the Egyptian belief on this subject that I can see involves the "vein of love." While all veins and arteries are obviously connected to the heart, there is noting peculiar about the veins in the third finger.

[MissBrattified]

I always find it ironic for people who insist on a woman's uncut hair as a symbol of authority/submission to conversely object to the symbolism of a ring.

It's not pagan worship for me to wear a symbol of my permanent attachment to my husband on my finger. No, I'm not in bondage...to Egypt. And no, it's not immodest. I could make a better case for it being immodest to NOT wear a ring to show that you are married.

[Dagwood]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

not my style

but im sure someone else could...

and i suppose you can get whatever you want out of it...seems like plenty of ppl do that with the Bible :-)

Yeah, that's true...guess it's because we're not all like you!

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I didn't get the idea that the ancient Egyptians were "celebrating the ring." It seemed to me that they saw it as a symbol of eternity and associated this ideal with "eternal love" between spouses and spouses-to-be.

Do you believe in lasting heterosexual marriages? If not, why not?

As for rings, I don't wear any metal because when I do I can actually taste the metal in my mouth. I know that sounds odd, but there is actually a medical explanation for this. My wife wears a simple wedding band as it is her preference to do so.

The only shortcomings with the Egyptian belief on this subject that I can see involves the "vein of love." While all veins and arteries are obviously connected to the heart, there is noting peculiar about the veins in the third finger.

i believe why i am my wife are alive that we are married, i dont use the same meanings that the egyptians use, so the reasons i and my wife wear a wedding ring cant be compared to that of egyptian use.

again it goes back to meaning 50 years ago the word gay ment happy, today the word means your in a relationship with some one of the same sex.

so the meaning of 3000 year old egypt doesnt have the same meaning today with the use of a ring as we do.

[Truthseeker]

W don't wear a ring and were doing just fine. I work with mostly women. They know I'm a committed married man.